From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cristian Gutierrez Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs for everything? Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:00:31 -0300 Message-ID: <871xepvf3k.fsf@guti.no-ip.org> References: <10pg1ivp03kqa69@corp.supernews.com> <87u0rq14xu.fsf@163.com> <87zn1i6ibz.fld@barrow.com> <9mmdnc.46.ln@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100894394 7990 80.91.229.6 (19 Nov 2004 19:59:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 20:59:46 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CVEv3-0003SJ-00 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:59:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CVF3y-0006gn-50 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:08:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CVF3o-0006gc-6q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:08:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CVF3n-0006gI-Ip for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CVF3n-0006g8-FF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CVEuA-0005SZ-Sk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:58:51 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CVEu9-0005cU-00 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:58:49 +0100 Original-Received: from 198-7-28.dial.terra.cl ([200.28.7.198]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:58:49 +0100 Original-Received: from crgutier by 198-7-28.dial.terra.cl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:58:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 198-7-28.dial.terra.cl Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADwAAAA8AgMAAABHkjHhAAAADFBMVEUWFhZfX1+ioqL6+vr8 dj+QAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAg5JREFUeNql0s9r02AYB/B4GIHuoAgVVmG9CVYwf4ILrht40Ynd dEXioWUsA3PaQQ8LKHpYLnbTThwiHbWYV9Sj9rL36NUObGkPUrVzuIs/6BvyluZ9ljcxaXI2lzwf eJOH9/k+AvhP/7j/Fv65OxMzmynhqO1zH/So+29NLeqvh6YU8WADmemIP4lxL8pxp6p3o2aZegZl R3YyaBJNaaGHKkqgxOXQNkKXzLQR+g9C6+b5kfcQevgmpYRuIrRZn5BCryO0US3ogW1BdV0J+3dz grpXmQXYfuf5nkLH5ksK/SIrnq/rg26ioTmdygtupwgWHSvoTnvF4CZl17dOYNoWy9yNPOzXfstg tYtXuR9o0JwlL+HgeWGBW8ZgGBbFnWUhw33Sbdz6TvHN1ey8a3YGIN+6T2C5PYFdD2sA6d5FAu9v LH3WBbAJBgmIDJ3ioooFoCzPNDq5in82TX7egsdXcE+0pZ3sEr+fxW7XoCvS3HRS4f7rrGHojRP0 6A72TOtuoBrZnVvz5kGIzVejX0jpvi2bF0Q+iz1TWuXFwbOkP7/hrrdaH58u+HakX7wwSsF8/eDT wf45417kFwIPd7yIcWDS52UDApevuZ86p0PLK1tuZHpoBN8YLgOM9pswfft/vO9oMf9g6UbMYNij /jDYglZwHRCYIIgx56aO4earyPlD89R0Mvo/9kR9HfgIgorhXaQc58oAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Rz3/vse5+4E1DH6btvrnT/H7IWU= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:22149 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:22149 Este martes, Alan Mackenzie dijo: [...] >> But what you are missing by using a console is the extreme versatility >> provided by a good window manager under X. > > What _you_ are missing on X is the benefit of having Emacs occupying the > _whole_ screen with an optimal font, without distractions from window > borders, mice, scroll-bars, menus, task-bars, wine-bars, tool-bars, > crow-bars, and what ever else glaziers clutter your screen up with. Try "Full screen maximization" in Window Maker anyday ;-) Yes, it can be binded to a key, or set as default, even for all apps (ratpoison-ish setup). And no, it doesn't gives you the anti-aliased fonts gnome-terminal and konsole can. Anyways, being a dockapp junkie myself (I *HAVE* to see all that info (or junk) AT ONCE!), I rarely leave X. Except when puttying-in from consumer-grade boxes and their consumer-grade OSes which have no ootb X support. -- Cristian Gutierrez http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~crgutier crgutier[@]dcc.uchile.cl Jabber:crgutier@jabber.org How many C++ programmers does it take to change a light bulb? You're still thinking procedurally. A properly designed light bulb object would inherit a change method from a generic light bulb class, so all you'd have to do is send a light bulb change message.