elisp help needed

elisp help needed

[Robert D. Crawford]

I have the following lines in my .emacs file:

(remove-hook 'w3m-after-cursor-move-hook
     #'w3m-print-this-url)

and for some reason, to get it to eval I have to do it by hand every
time I restart emacs.  I *think* this might be the only code that is not
being evaled, but I do not know any way to be certain.  I know that
there are things below this line that are being correctly evaled.  All
the code in the customize section seems to be ok, and I have a function
that byte-compiles .el files when they are saved that works.

Is there some way to know what is being evaled?

Thanks,

rdc

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Re: elisp help needed

[RD]

Robert D. Crawford wrote:
> I have the following lines in my .emacs file:
> 
> (remove-hook 'w3m-after-cursor-move-hook
>      #'w3m-print-this-url)
> 
> and for some reason, to get it to eval I have to do it by hand every
> time I restart emacs.  I *think* this might be the only code that is not
> being evaled, but I do not know any way to be certain.  I know that
> there are things below this line that are being correctly evaled.  All
> the code in the customize section seems to be ok, and I have a function
> that byte-compiles .el files when they are saved that works.
> 
> Is there some way to know what is being evaled?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> rdc
> 

I use the old "print" method.  I salt my .emacs file with (message 
"blah") commands to report progress.

Is there a command after the remove-hook that puts the hook back?

Bob

Re: elisp help needed

[Robert D. Crawford]

RD <rjjd@localnet.com> writes:

> Robert D. Crawford wrote:
>> I have the following lines in my .emacs file: 
>
> (remove-hook 'w3m-after-cursor-move-hook #'w3m-print-this-url) 
>
>and for some
>> reason, to get it to eval I have to do it by hand every time I
>> restart emacs.  I *think* this might be the only code that is not
>> being evaled, but I do not know any way to be certain.  I know that
>> there are things below this line that are being correctly evaled.
>> All the code in the customize section seems to be ok, and I have a
>> function that byte-compiles .el files when they are saved that works.
>> Is there some way to know what is being evaled?  Thanks, rdc
>>
>
> I use the old "print" method.  I salt my .emacs file with (message
> "blah") commands to report progress.

Yeah, I thought about doing this, but it seemed there should be a better
way.  
>
> Is there a command after the remove-hook that puts the hook back?

That is a good question.  I looked at the documentation for the
function and it says: 

w3m-print-this-url is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `w3m'.
(w3m-print-this-url &optional INTERACTIVE-P)

Display the url under point in the echo area and put it into `kill-ring'.

This function is advised.

After-advice `emacspeak':
Produce auditory icon.

The changes that emacspeak makes on the hook come from the file
emacspeak-w3m.el I think.  I guess it could be that the file is not
loaded until after the .emacs file is loaded and w3m is started for the
first time.  I am going to put some message lines in the file to see
when it is loaded.

If it is the case that the file is not loaded until after my .emacs,
what can be done to take care of this, outside of editing the source of
the file itself?  I think that is a very bad idea.

Thanks,

rdc

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Re: elisp help needed

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <87irqygkzs.fsf@laptop.rdc1.home> Robert D. Crawford wrote:

> I have the following lines in my .emacs file:

> (remove-hook 'w3m-after-cursor-move-hook
>      #'w3m-print-this-url)

> and for some reason, to get it to eval I have to do it by hand every
> time I restart emacs.  I *think* this might be the only code that is not
> being evaled, but I do not know any way to be certain.

I guess it is eval'd before loading w3m.elc.  If so, nothing
will happen.  The best way is to put such things into the
~/.emacs-w3m.el file.  Please consult the emacs-w3m Info manual.
Here's an extract:

2.6 Minimal settings to run emacs-w3m
=====================================
[...]
`Startup File'
     We recommend using the `~/.emacs-w3m' file (which is the default
     value of `w3m-init-file') if you need to twiddle some emacs-w3m
     variables.  This file is similar to `~/.emacs', but is read when
     emacs-w3m starts.  Note that some options shouldn't be modified
     there, for example, `w3m-command'.

Re: elisp help needed [solved]

[Robert D. Crawford]

"Robert D. Crawford" <rdc1x@comcast.net> writes:

>> Is there a command after the remove-hook that puts the hook back?
>
> That is a good question.  I looked at the documentation for the
> function and it says:
>
/snip/

> The changes that emacspeak makes on the hook come from the file
> emacspeak-w3m.el I think.  

I was wrong here, but  it really doesn't matter.  


> I guess it could be that the file is not
> loaded until after the .emacs file is loaded and w3m is started for
> the first t

Here is where the important part starts.  I guess the hook is defined,
or added to after the .emacs file is read.  All I did was to move the
function to the .emacs-w3m file so that it ws read when w3m starts and
everything was fine.

Thanks for putting me on the right track.

rdc

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Re: elisp help needed

[Robert D. Crawford]

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:

> I guess it is eval'd before loading w3m.elc.  If so, nothing will
> happen.  The best way is to put such things into the ~/.emacs-w3m.el
> file.  Please consult the emacs-w3m Info manual.  Here's an extract:
>
I wish I would have read your post before I replied to mine.

thanks,

rdc

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Re: elisp help needed

[Tim Cross]

"Robert D. Crawford" <rdc1x@comcast.net> writes:

> RD <rjjd@localnet.com> writes:
>
>> Robert D. Crawford wrote:
>>> I have the following lines in my .emacs file: 
>>
>> (remove-hook 'w3m-after-cursor-move-hook #'w3m-print-this-url) 
>>
>>and for some
>>> reason, to get it to eval I have to do it by hand every time I
>>> restart emacs.  I *think* this might be the only code that is not
>>> being evaled, but I do not know any way to be certain.  I know that
>>> there are things below this line that are being correctly evaled.
>>> All the code in the customize section seems to be ok, and I have a
>>> function that byte-compiles .el files when they are saved that works.
>>> Is there some way to know what is being evaled?  Thanks, rdc
>>>
>>
>> I use the old "print" method.  I salt my .emacs file with (message
>> "blah") commands to report progress.
>
> Yeah, I thought about doing this, but it seemed there should be a better
> way.  
>>
>> Is there a command after the remove-hook that puts the hook back?
>
> That is a good question.  I looked at the documentation for the
> function and it says: 
>
> w3m-print-this-url is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `w3m'.
> (w3m-print-this-url &optional INTERACTIVE-P)
>
> Display the url under point in the echo area and put it into `kill-ring'.
>
> This function is advised.
>
> After-advice `emacspeak':
> Produce auditory icon.
>
> The changes that emacspeak makes on the hook come from the file
> emacspeak-w3m.el I think.  I guess it could be that the file is not
> loaded until after the .emacs file is loaded and w3m is started for the
> first time.  I am going to put some message lines in the file to see
> when it is loaded.
>
> If it is the case that the file is not loaded until after my .emacs,
> what can be done to take care of this, outside of editing the source of
> the file itself?  I think that is a very bad idea.
>
Robert,

I think something changed in the emacspeak-w3m which stops this
workaround for removing that function. However, if you look into the
customize group for w3m, you will find there is a hook variable which
adds that function, so you can just remove it. From memory, it is
w3m-after-cursor-move-hook.

Tim

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Re: elisp help needed

[Robert D. Crawford]

Hi Tim,

Tim Cross <tcross@tiger.rapttech.com.au> writes:

> Robert,
>
> I think something changed in the emacspeak-w3m which stops this
> workaround for removing that function. 

I just had it in the wrong place.  I had it in my .emacs file and it
needed to be in my .emacs-w3m file.

> However, if you look into the customize group for w3m, you will find
> there is a hook variable which adds that function, so you can just
> remove it. From memory, it is w3m-after-cursor-move-hook.

I'll check this out.
>
Thanks,

rdc


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