From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs psychiatrist Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:03:07 +1100 Organization: Rapt Technologies Message-ID: <871w5z8c3o.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <47E30C9C.9030305@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206434443 29479 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2008 08:40:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:40:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 09:41:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Je4iW-0002o9-LO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:41:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Je4hv-0005jk-9Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:40:35 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xt-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IQH5RUqypnGcPaCJeYKCzI2BLI0= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 39 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:157307 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52677 Archived-At: stan writes: > Bastien wrote: >> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: >> >>> Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> Actually, it's not a psychiatrist (obviously: it doesn't prescribe any >>>> drug), just a psychoanalyst. >>> >>> Well, that's incorrect I believe. Shouldn't it be >>> >>> Actually, it's not a psychiatrist (obviously: it doesn't >>> just prescribe some drug), it is a psychoanalyst. >> >> AFAIK there are more psychiatrists that are also psychoanalysts than >> psychoanalysts that are also psychiatrists. So in most of the cases >> the role of the psychiatrists-psychoanalyst is not to "just" prescribe >> drugs. > > My money is on Zippy to have access to better drugs than Eliza. ;) I think the destinction is between psychiatrist and psychologist - the former is able to prescribe drugs while the later cannot. Back when I did psychology, psychoanalyst was either a psychiatrist or psychologist who subscribed to Freud's psychoanalytical approach i.e. it was a specific school of thought on the analysis and treatment of various psychological disorders. It is not the only approach an in fact, back in the early 80's at least, had pretty much fallen out of favor compared to other theories that were not based on defining what was 'normal' essentially through interviews with people defined as 'abnormal' and dependent on unproven concepts such as the edipus/elektra complex, penis envy, Id, super Id and Ego. Modern psychology tends to prefer theories with more scientific rigor (or at least pseudo-rigor!). Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au