Fwd: Contacting Richard Stallman

Fwd: Contacting Richard Stallman

[yannis antsos]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: yannis antsos <yannis.antsos@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Subject: Contacting Richard Stallman
To: rms@gnu.org


Hi Richard,

I am sorry to directly bother you. I searched on groups.google and
various web but could not find the answer. I opened an emacs in my
windows XP a few days ago and pasted a number of info in the *scratch*
and the windows yesterday night did autoupdate killing the process
possibly.
Any ideas where can I find the temporary file and what may it look
like ? in the autosaves, there was an empty file corresponding to that
name. i have not used the emacs from that account where it was opened
for that scratch buffer.

Thanks for any help.

Yannis

Fwd: Contacting Richard Stallman

[yannis antsos]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Date: Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: Contacting Richard Stallman
To: yannis antsos <yannis.antsos@gmail.com>


If you'd like help using Emacs, please ask help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org.

Re: Contacting Richard Stallman

[tyler]

"yannis antsos" <yannis.antsos@gmail.com> writes:

> Can you guys please reply ???????
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:31 PM, yannis antsos
> <yannis.antsos@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> I am sorry to directly bother you. I searched on groups.google and
>> various web but could not find the answer. I opened an emacs in my
>> windows XP a few days ago and pasted a number of info in the
>> *scratch* and the windows yesterday night did autoupdate killing the
>> process possibly. Any ideas where can I find the temporary file and
>> what may it look like ? in the autosaves, there was an empty file
>> corresponding to that name. i have not used the emacs from that
>> account where it was opened for that scratch buffer.
>>

First off, rms already directed you here for help, there is no reason to
continue to cc him.

As for your problem: as I understand it, autosave isn't enabled by
default for the scratch buffer. So any information in this buffer is
lost unless explicitly saved when emacs closes. The idea is that scratch
is for quick notes, working out bits of elisp - things that are not
needed beyond the current session.

If you open a new file, it *will* be set to autosave, even before you
save it for the first time. So you can avoid this problem by opening a
new file called 'tmp', or whatever, and putting your info in there
instead of in scratch. I know that doesn't solve your immediate problem,
but it will help you avoid it recurring in future.

Cheers,

Tyler

Re: Contacting Richard Stallman

[yannis antsos]

Can you guys please reply ???????

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:31 PM, yannis antsos <yannis.antsos@gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: yannis antsos <yannis.antsos@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
> Subject: Contacting Richard Stallman
> To: rms@gnu.org
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I am sorry to directly bother you. I searched on groups.google and
> various web but could not find the answer. I opened an emacs in my
> windows XP a few days ago and pasted a number of info in the *scratch*
> and the windows yesterday night did autoupdate killing the process
> possibly.
> Any ideas where can I find the temporary file and what may it look
> like ? in the autosaves, there was an empty file corresponding to that
> name. i have not used the emacs from that account where it was opened
> for that scratch buffer.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Yannis
>

Re: Contacting Richard Stallman

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 13.12.2008 um 20:59 schrieb yannis antsos:

> Can you guys please reply ???????


I thought it's documented that the contents of the *scratch* buffer  
is volatile. I mean, its name tells me stories.) In MS it's always  
possible that some data is saved in the swap file or the open files  
of any MS applications ...

--
Greetings

   Pete

One cannot live by television, video games, top ten CDs, and dumb  
movies alone.
				– Amiri Baraka, 1999

Re: Recovering files after a crash

[Dan Espen]

"yannis antsos" <yannis.antsos@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:31 PM, yannis antsos <yannis.antsos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: yannis antsos <yannis.antsos@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
>> Subject: Contacting Richard Stallman
>> To: rms@gnu.org
>>
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> I am sorry to directly bother you. I searched on groups.google and
>> various web but could not find the answer. I opened an emacs in my
>> windows XP a few days ago and pasted a number of info in the *scratch*
>> and the windows yesterday night did autoupdate killing the process
>> possibly.
>> Any ideas where can I find the temporary file and what may it look
>> like ? in the autosaves, there was an empty file corresponding to that
>> name. i have not used the emacs from that account where it was opened
>> for that scratch buffer.

Empty file in the autosaves?

I'm not sure what you mean, but if the backup file is empty,
you have no backup.

You should not edit in the scratch buffer, that's why its called
a "scratch buffer".

Any file that you edit will have a backup file.
On crashes, there will also be a save file.
The next time you start emacs and visit that file
emacs will ask whether you want to edit the existing file
or restore the backup.

Re: Contacting Richard Stallman

[锁住子]

On Dec 14, 4:27 am, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyba...@Web.DE> wrote:
> Am 13.12.2008 um 20:59 schrieb yannis antsos:
>
> > Can you guys please reply ???????

There's also recover-session for these occasions:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/After-a-Crash.html

There's a fair chance that recover-session has a record of that
particular crash, though as everyone else has pointed out, there's
also a fair chance that it didn't save *scratch*.

Yrs,
Eric

>
> I thought it's documented that the contents of the *scratch* buffer  
> is volatile. I mean, its name tells me stories.) In MS it's always  
> possible that some data is saved in the swap file or the open files  
> of any MS applications ...
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>    Pete
>
> One cannot live by television, video games, top ten CDs, and dumb  
> movies alone.
>                                 – Amiri Baraka, 1999