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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Printf and quoting in general, SQL injection in particular
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:57:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871r8p2h37.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAP_d_8WW67L0NKR=hbp+KPyt54nkgUHi3YPm7LFve8sJiL5q6Q@mail.gmail.com

Yuri Khan wrote:

>> Relax, this notion that you shouldn't construct file paths
>> by string functions, nor SQL queries for that matter, and
>> what more? hyperlinks?
>
> Hyperlinks, too.
>
> One of the requirements of URLs is that all non-ascii and
> some ascii characters be %-encoded when used in the path or
> query string, or punycode-encoded when used in the host
> name:
>
>     (let ((base "http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/")
>           (term "Гиперссылка")
>           (joined (concat base term)))
>       (assert (string= joined
> "https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D1%81%D1%8B%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%B0")))
>  ;; alas, no
>
> Another rule is that resolving a relative reference
> containing a path against a base URL will drop the last
> segment of the base:
>
>     (let ((base "http://example.org/foo")
>           (href "bar")
>           (resolved (concat base href)))
>       (assert (string= resolved "http://example.org/bar")))  ;; also no
>
> String concat does not know any of these rules.
>
> It is okay to represent file names, SQL queries, and URLs as
> strings *internally*. It is okay to use string functions to
> implement high-level domain-specific functions. In many
> cases, interoperating with external code will also require
> these things represented as strings. But it is a good idea
> to use domain-specific functions to manipulate file names,
> queries, and URLs, rather than string functions, because
> this way you are less likely to violate those
> types’ invariants.

Interesting, what about typing? Not as error prone, because
you see the result?

So it is like a three stage hierarchy or procedure rather,

  1. typing (just type, you see it anyway)
  2. manipulate (domain-specific functions)
  3. use

(For hyperlinks, step 1 could be done with a lot of functions
(protocol (domain (path (page (page-type ...) ? That'd just be
grotesque. I don't know if that'd be more safe, really?)

But OK, so instead of "anything goes, then verify input at
step 3" - which is where it matters BTW - the approach is
_type carefully_, then just exclusively use domain-specific
manipulators. So all you have to care about is the typing
part, because after that, it won't get messed up!

I see the point, but - to be honest, string manipulation at
this very basic level - and typing - I don't know, I feel kind
of comfortable doing BOTH by now :) But never say never...

I still don't understand what to replace my stuff with tho,

(let*((emacs-dir "~/.emacs.d")
      (lisp-dir  (format "%s/lisp"       emacs-dir))
      (init-dir  (format "%s/emacs-init" emacs-dir))
      (erc-dir   (format "%s/erc"        init-dir))
      (gnus-dir  (format "%s/gnus"       init-dir))
      (ide-dir   (format "%s/ide"        init-dir))
      (w3m-dir   (format "%s/w3m"        init-dir))
      (dirs     (list
                 lisp-dir
                 init-dir
                 erc-dir
                 gnus-dir
                 ide-dir
                 w3m-dir
                 ))) ...

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-26  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-21  1:40 Emacs Modular Configuration: the preferable way Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-21  2:56 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21  6:40   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-21 16:31     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 19:55       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22  0:06         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 10:14   ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-21 16:40     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 18:25       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-26  0:17         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-26  0:31           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 18:38       ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-22  0:03         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22  0:17           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22  7:52           ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-26  6:58             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 11:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-21 12:45     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-21 12:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-21 13:59         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-21 16:51           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 18:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-21 18:26             ` FW: " Drew Adams
2021-06-26  0:06               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 14:11       ` tomas
2021-06-21 16:47         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 18:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-21 21:09             ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 11:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-22 12:29                 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 13:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-21 20:05           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22  0:16             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 21:07           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22  0:33             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22  0:52               ` Printf and quoting in general, SQL injection in particular Jean Louis
2021-06-26  6:50                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-26  7:30                   ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-26  7:57                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-06-26  9:37                     ` tomas
2021-06-28  7:02                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06  2:12                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-06  2:46                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 20:36         ` Emacs Modular Configuration: the preferable way Jean Louis
2021-06-21 21:15           ` Printf and quoting in general, SQL injection in particular [was: Emacs Modular Configuration: the preferable way] tomas
2021-06-21 21:29             ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22  0:31               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22  0:47                 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-26  6:31                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-28  6:56                     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06  1:57                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-06 20:04                         ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06 20:19                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22  0:23             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22 12:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-22 12:37                 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 13:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-22 15:45                     ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 16:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-22 18:01                         ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22 18:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-26  6:46                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-26  7:15                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-28  7:04                               ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06  2:05                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-06 20:09                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06 20:23                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-07  0:00                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-28  6:59                             ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06  2:02                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-06 20:06                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06 20:20                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-26  6:41                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-26  6:39                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 16:42       ` Emacs Modular Configuration: the preferable way Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22 12:50       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-26  8:05         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 20:02   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-22  0:11     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-22  0:19       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-21  6:37 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-21  7:00   ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-21 10:06     ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-21 10:26       ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-21 11:10         ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-23  2:17           ` Hongyi Zhao

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