From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: minimize-frame ? Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 04:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: <871r7rrtew.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87fsw78apm.fsf@web.de> <87czrbtcbp.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v953rvox.fsf@zoho.eu> <87k0ljrur4.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:WBQjfK9bVS6oSg86REL0Yqmf+jM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 22 04:10:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6O9x-0009u5-OV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 04:10:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45222 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6O9w-0005jf-GF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:10:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6O9d-0005jV-M0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6O9c-0003fK-16 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6O9a-0009Xh-1N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 04:09:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132005 Archived-At: > Quake (1996), Fallout (1997), and StarCraft (1998) for the > PC, and Final Fantasy 7 (1997) for the PSX where the last > game I ever played. That was a good time to stop BTW. Here we are still at 56.6k. Right after that came cable and ADSL. And then the trio of game that supposedly killed half a generation young guys. "I lost 10 years to this game", they say. And I believe them. These games were the "Brood War" expansion to StarCraft (1998), "Counter Strike" (1999), and "Diablo 2" (2000) - all multiplayer games. StarCraft and Brood War were obviously amazing, I never played CS, Diablo is super-polished but too simplistic a game-idea, just a super-polished dungeon crawler. Well, poor guys who lost 10 years to that. And how can that even happen? It is the complexity of the games and the multiplayer aspect that actually make the same old game _new_ whenever new tactics are explored, and this happens over and over every time at a higher, more interesting and intoxicating level ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal