From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : How to create a higher order function? Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 19:11:45 +0200 Message-ID: <871r5dhp9q.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <87k0jawotx.fsf@mbork.pl> <87czoyfipj.fsf@mbork.pl> <87k0j6gvpd.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35886"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:IKBmUF+vkEoc9fwiN4PRuVXXM84= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 24 19:32:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mTp49-00097U-RA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 19:32:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46672 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mTp48-0004NO-Cx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 13:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mToju-00009I-Ft for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 13:11:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:42560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mTojs-0000DK-AS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 13:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mTojp-0002tO-V1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2021 19:11:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:133221 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > RMS's arguments are specifically for users of an editing > environment such as Emacs. They go beyond the general > arguments for providing dynamic binding (in addition to > lexical) in Lisp. Again, if it is the options argument I agree that's a good method to do it however I would formulate that as "we implement options by way of global variables", I don't see how dynamic/special vs static/lexical really applies? I also would not hit the big drum over that since it is such a basic idea which everyone understands. It is like putting a nail under a spotlight on a huge pedestal in a museum on the industrial revolution. Because everyone already understands the nail - at least conceptually, so there's no reason to do it. And, while I don't know who the "RSM" of the industrial revolution was, I'm still 100% confident he was very familiar with the nail. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal