Re: lamers on IRC

[Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com>]

>>>>> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

    > * Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> [2022-05-23 00:22]:
    >> One problem with IRC is the presence of lamers, luckily this
    >> problem can be solved easily with technology starting with the
    >> IRC client. Today I learned how to do this with my client, ERC:

    > 😥️ Emacs channel for years has no moderators who moderate by
    > common sense and police the channel for good behavior, there are
    > no special rules, and those policies displayed like to avoid
    > discrimination and asshatery will be quickly broken by those few
    > dominating over larger group of people there.

    > And people participating, often few hundreds of them may think and
    > get opinion that rude behavior is acceptable -- no it is not
    > normal, there are many occurences of unfriendly and abusively
    > dominating behavior.

    > Some of alpha monkey dominators will switch from channel to
    > channel after the user and even complain why did that user go to
    > other channel. They go because of abusive behavior.

    > Public come to #emacs for Emacs reasons. They will often find
    > narcissists' behavior and abuse. Insults and mockery are common.

    > #emacs IMHO is not GNU governedchannel, rather it is GNU project
    > related channel, IMHO, is also not moderated by GNU Kind
    > Communication Guidelines.

    > This is appearing as generalization, as I do not want to mention
    > the dominators' nick names.

    > Some people complain on Libreplanet mailing list on unwelcoming
    > environments in social networks around free software. I can really
    > understand such complaints, and I like to point to friendly
    > digital places for help. IMHO #emacs channel on IRC is such place
    > due to few dominating parties. This is because dominators live in
    > their own digital world behind the computer, forgetting about the
    > human beings on other side of the world.

I agree wholeheartily with the above. I tried #emacs but quickly gave
up and now never go there.

Best wishes,