From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tpeplt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Synchronization between help-gnu-emacs and gnu.emacs.help Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:27:37 -0400 Message-ID: <871qfktjo6.fsf@gmail.com> References: <874jkgv0ob.fsf@gmail.com> <83il8wfjka.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22082"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 30 21:28:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qbQrO-0005VD-ST for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from t530.local ([2600:8806:a821:2b00::a271]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m4-20020a0cf184000000b0063cfb3fbb7esm4323611qvl.16.2023.08.30.12.27.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83il8wfjka.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:53:41 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::734; envelope-from=tpeplt@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x734.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145032 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: tpeplt@gmail.com >> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:35:00 -0400 >> >> >> At http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/documentation.html is >> the following text: >> >> > Asking for help >> > >> > To ask for help with GNU Emacs, use the mailing list >> > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org or the newsgroup gnu.emacs.help. The >> > mailing list and newsgroup are linked: messages posted on >> > one appear on the other as well. >> >> Is this text correct? Are messages that are sent to either of >> these forwarded to the other? Or is this description out of >> date? > > As far as we know, yes, it is correct. Thank you. I am not seeing the mailing list (help-gnu-emacs) messages in the newsgroup (gnu.emacs.help), or vice versa. This is using Emacs 28.2, gnus v5.13, and news.eternal-september.org (possibly the source of the problem?). Based on the sparse messages in gnu.emacs.help, others who are posting there are seeing the same problem (and lack of messages that are sent to help-gnu-emacs mailing list). --