Emacs and email (again)

Emacs and email (again)

[Stephen Bunn]

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List,

  I know this has been discussed to death and everybody has their own
opinion, however, some of the information on the list is really old.  I have
been using an external mail reader for some time (thunderbird, claws, etc)
and would like to integrate this into my emacs setup.  Specifically what I'm
looking for is the following:

* Support for IMAP/Gmail (including domains attached to gmail)
* Fast and Stable
* Ability to setup multiple accounts (with the smarts to know if I'm
replying from one address to use a specefic SMTP server)
* Threaded views

So I've quickly looked at GNUS, WL, and VM. All of them seem very complex to
setup (I don't know lisp all that well).  So my question would be, which
package should I be spending my time learning?

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Re: Emacs and email (again)

[Michal Sojka]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Stephen Bunn wrote:
> List,
> 
>   I know this has been discussed to death and everybody has their own
> opinion, however, some of the information on the list is really old.  I have
> been using an external mail reader for some time (thunderbird, claws, etc)
> and would like to integrate this into my emacs setup.  Specifically what I'm
> looking for is the following:

> * Support for IMAP/Gmail (including domains attached to gmail)
> * Fast and Stable
> * Ability to setup multiple accounts (with the smarts to know if I'm
> replying from one address to use a specefic SMTP server)
> * Threaded views
> 
> So I've quickly looked at GNUS, WL, and VM. All of them seem very complex to
> setup (I don't know lisp all that well).  So my question would be, which
> package should I be spending my time learning?

Hi,

I do not have any experience with GNUS, WL and VM for the same reason -
complexity. You may try to look at notmuch (http://notmuchmail.org).
When you combine it with offlineimap it should support all what you want
except for using different SMTP servers. Notmuch is clever enough to
reply with correct From address (if you have more than one) so it might
be possible to select SMTP server based on From address, but it would
probably require some scripting.

-Michal

Fwd: Emacs and email (again)

[James Freer]

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From: James Freer <jessejazza@googlemail.com>
Date: 10 December 2010 11:40
Subject: Re: Emacs and email (again)
To: Stephen Bunn <scbunn@sbunn.org>


On 10 December 2010 02:09, Stephen Bunn
>   I know this has been discussed to death and everybody has their own
> opinion, however, some of the information on the list is really old.  I have
> been using an external mail reader for some time (thunderbird, claws, etc)
> * Support for IMAP/Gmail (including domains attached to gmail)
a]> * Fast and Stable
b]> * Ability to setup multiple accounts (with the smarts to know if I'm
> replying from one address to use a specific SMTP server)
c]> * Threaded views
>
d]> So I've quickly looked at GNUS, WL, and VM. All of them seem very complex to
e]> which package should I be spending my time learning?

Hi Stephen

I have just been thinking along the same lines d] e]. I currently use
gmail and ItsAllText for replying to emails. This i find quite fast
and efficient. I am a long time Wordstar user but more recently i've
got fed up with using a console editor - my text editing is for
magazine column writing (not coding) and so a graphical editor is much
more appropriate. I've tried to get on with emacs and vi but struggle.
Neither compare with wordstar for speed. But then again vim wordwrap
is poor and emacs is a large app and slow with it. The emacs clones
are console and not graphical which is again a negative for me.

Anyway back to the point of reading emails... with emacs i gave up!
Too complicated for me. Thunderbird and claws too slow on imap.
Sylpheed (much better than claws) or Cone may be to your liking a] b]
c](not cone). Mutt is something you may like to try but it takes a
good while to set up.

What have i done... just stayed as before! What i wanted particularly
was to print emails to pdf )important ones like from a legal dispute i
had - for archiving) which i couldn't do in gmail however they have
changed this now (one cancels the conversations in setup, print out
the emails and then setup conversations again). Offlineimap is a route
that may be worth considering and has an excellent pdf doc with it.
Thing is with gmail it is hard to beat unless one particularly wants
to use an email client.

Perhaps not helping much but i've been there... as it were. I spent a
week fiddling around with email clients and Mutt and it simply wasn't
worth the time.

I'd like a perfect editor! - like a graphical emacs clone or a
graphical wordstar clone but there isn't one.

james

Re: Emacs and email (again)

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

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Stephen Bunn <scbunn@sbunn.org> 쓰시길:

> (I don't know lisp all that well).  

Me, too.

> So my question
> would be, which package should I be spending my time learning?

Gnus.

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