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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@toledo.com>
>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:49:15 -0300
>> 
>> > Is this on MS-Windows?  If so, you cannot invoke programs from Emacs
>> > with command-line arguments encoded in anything but the system
>> > codepage.  And UTF-8 cannot be a system codepage on Windows.
>> 
>> You're right.  This is MS-Windows.  But I thought MS-Windows would not
>> interfere here.  Why does it interfere?  I thought the messages would go
>> straight into git's ARGV.
>
> How can it go "straight"?  

I meant not being messed with.  I don't know anything about MS-Windows.
In UNIX the creation of a new process by a shell is likely to call
execve, which won't touch the caller strings passed in through the
argv-argument.