From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Evans Winner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Expand/unexpand window possible? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:25:04 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86y6va1tvj.fsf@timbral.net> References: <7cocw7c9w3.fsf@pbourguignon.informatimago.com> <04912f6f-3285-4c16-9518-22c362426433@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <7c3adid9ue.fsf@pbourguignon.anevia.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236883309 30701 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2009 18:41:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:41:49 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 12 19:43:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lhprj-0000ch-2a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:42:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LhpqM-00049U-VP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:41:23 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 4xmhsRr5Aeb6D0t2Thq8sQ.user.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:37:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.7.7 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wee9fb31tdQ/oxMbqYfLrlE6d8c= sha1:4MF3RuM3T0+/OG3WYRu89MJUfRM= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.90 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:167534 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62859 Archived-At: pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes: I can't understand why RMS hasn't rewritten emacs in Common Lisp a long time ago... (apart from him saying that he didn't like CL). That's usually enough of a reason for most people. LiCE compiled for me on sbcl recently[1]. It also presumably runs on Movitz. It's not exactly production- ready, and I'm not nearly enough of a cl hacker to work on it, but it has the virtue (in my opinion) over other attempts at a cl-based Emacs that it 1) runs in a tty, and 2) attempts an API for Emacs lisp, so that it could eventually run (much of?) the existing Emacs lisp code. It includes ELIZA, which at a glance looks like it was simple to port. If LiCE ever gets to the point where it is even reasonably usable I for one would be willing to do some of the grunt work of trying to get Elisp libraries running on it, assuming that ends up as straight-forward as it seems he (Betts) intends it to be. Footnotes: [1] http://www.emmett.ca/~sabetts/