From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs user manual in Spanish Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:30:57 +0200 Message-ID: <86y3rzdpim.fsf@zoho.com> References: <20170702082424.GA3364@workstation> <86h8yuy7v1.fsf@zoho.com> <20170703093945.GA10537@workstation> <8660f9x1sj.fsf@zoho.com> <20170707163853.GF4499@protected.rcdrun.com> <86mv8gf99k.fsf@zoho.com> <0D787C17-72A5-49C0-AC6C-8C8A842CB71F@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499520705 26863 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2017 13:31:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 13:31:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 08 15:31:41 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTppl-0006lJ-9Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:31:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32963 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTppq-0000fc-Gb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTppN-0000fW-TN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTppK-0005k6-Qc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:31:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=49990 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTppK-0005jq-BE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:31:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTppC-000588-9h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:31:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:xwYhmacA92+8gUqRXPCmsGRzrEs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113738 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > Technology is not an end in itself. What you > do with it is. And you do it in local > communities in native language. Do computers at any reasonably high level, then it is English. All experience at least since the 50s shows this. Look down in front of you - or behind you, were I have my computer - what computer is it? Look inside it: what OS does it have? Look inside the OS - in what (human) language is the code? And in what country did they develop the programming language? Or, if they did it in another country, e.g., Linux which is Finland and actually the entire world - what language did they use to coordinate and discuss efforts? And we have seen examples of that in this very thread: the lack of a Spanish manual, and the absence of populated Spanish Emacs groups/lists on either aioe or Gmane. And Spanish isn't some "minor" language you can neglect, even if you were fond of such rankings, which I am not. Actually, a noble hidalgo on board a galleon for the New World has as much to gain from learning English as has a Suede on a Viking ship. Even this whole discussion involving people from all over Europe, including Russia, and the US as well. There is not a single language - other than English - that we all know to even have a rudimentary discussion of this kind. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573