From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus IMAP Qs: catch-up vs delete vs expire & "gnus-expire" tag ? 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Due to limited space in a free account on zohomail.com, I want to >> clean up old mail on both my system and the server. I assumed the >> way to do that was (mostly) by "catchup", but that just marks all >> the mails in the summary buffer as read. How do you delete old >> email? > > There are a few ways, but you might want to start by reading > > (info "(gnus) Expiring Mail") > > You don't have to use expiry - the important part is what is done when > Gnus actions the expiry, and this can be done without the expiry > process - but personally I quite like it because setting marks is > fast, and the actual deletion (server command) is done in bulk. It > feels a lot like commit vs push in git to me. > >> 3. I thought 'expire' was the way to delete, but the manual implies >> that expired email can be deleted by Gnus at some future time. How >> is that controlled? > > That's covered by the info page above. I use nnmail-expiry-wait > immediate. > >> 4. I found that the expired email wound up being tagged with >> "gnus-expire" on the IMAP server. Is there an assumption that the >> IMAP server will delete emails tagged with "gnus-expire"? If so, how >> does that work? > > No. Expiry is actioned by Gnus. Just to clarify: This means that if you're using delayed expiry, the message would have to be loaded in the Summary and old enough so that 'q' etc. will make Gnus delete it. I too, mostly, simply expire immediately to the Deleted folder. --