From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs user manual in Spanish Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2017 21:45:04 +0200 Message-ID: <86poddqri7.fsf@zoho.com> References: <20170702082424.GA3364@workstation> <86h8yuy7v1.fsf@zoho.com> <5ac97eb4-d897-4c35-b095-e76250398400@default> <8637aexz6l.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9t2wjhe.fsf@zoho.com> <87shiebe96.fsf@wanadoo.es> <77DD6B65-5E66-4182-8433-F6528025C82C@gmail.com> <86h8yuw8qt.fsf@zoho.com> <8760f9mlgl.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <3E7EC386-0967-4456-B17A-982C6842CD6C@gmail.com> <87podelqg7.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <22978085-253A-4AB8-AC00-DA1F19E76705@gmail.com> <87fue9lmq5.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <87mv8hfzzh.fsf@rosalinde> <87bmoxle1x.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <86y3s1qz5z.fsf@zoho.com> <87fue9a3k5.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499370358 16471 195.159.176.226 (6 Jul 2017 19:45:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 06 21:45:53 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTCii-0003p1-Be for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 21:45:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53040 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTCin-0002TD-PA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:45:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTCiL-0002Sp-S6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:45:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTCiI-0003Ix-PK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:45:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=50900 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTCiI-0003Hw-I2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 15:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTCi7-00025V-7j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 21:45:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:R9aezvtsKWLHZKUcrU5e6mmkokc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113721 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes wrote: > You are falling into the trap of the > self-full-filing prophecy. Since using Emacs > requires to know English, people who do not > meet that requirement does not use Emacs, and > people who do use the English forums. Well, one could think of the scenario that a person knows good enough English to use a piece of software which is in English, write code or whatever in what is some version of English, but when discussing things, asking for help etc. would prefer to do so in his native language. That said, in the discussion there was the point raised that ~"people who come from huge langauge groups (not English) don't need to learn English as much as people from small languages because they (the big language people) have like a parallel structure where they can use the software and discuss it in in their native language". And indeed, the Gmane server list has 37 hits for "spanish", and the aioe one has 11. [1] But only one Emacs related, with close to zero activity. Indeed, I think many hispanic people use Emacs and in time God willing they will show up here as well when their general English skills improve which has already happened quickly in France, Germany, Russia, and in many other countries as well. [1] The respective digits for "french" is 79-15, for "german" 103-98, for "swedish" 5-5, and so on. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573