From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: info-find-source Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 03:41:57 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86mv1d9pfu.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86tvvufeh0.fsf@zoho.com> <86a7xlezm7.fsf@zoho.com> <86shbcdpr5.fsf@zoho.com> <86po6eke67.fsf@zoho.com> <86inc6kbyb.fsf@zoho.com> <867esmk28h.fsf@zoho.com> <866084eynp.fsf@zoho.com> <86tvvmdhx5.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1516157510 5489 195.159.176.226 (17 Jan 2018 02:51:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 02:51:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 17 03:51:46 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ebdpF-0000lp-Em for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2018 03:51:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57327 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ebdrF-00044O-GO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:53:45 -0500 X-Received: by 10.223.201.17 with SMTP id m17mr113781wrh.29.1516156918729; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:41:58 -0800 (PST) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!m70no5467885wma.0!news-out.google.com!74ni60077wme.0!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: zRXoCvQ6k9fneBfYPnB6lQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:954pgKIa+ZRdJOrpv9LtENfLiGA= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:221634 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115751 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> because of that, almost the entire society >> has abandoned cash, and that kind of crime >> doesn't happen anymore. So that is one >> benefit, at least. > > Does that mean that there are no more > anonymous monetary transactions? > That sounds scary! There is cash but its use and significance has plummeted in the last 10-15 years and what I can determine this is a process that only continues. When we first heard one could pay directly with a credit card in the store, what we thought was OK, this is what happens when some dude from Virgin Records gets on a jet from London and wants to buy a snowmobile, only he is afraid he will be robbed on the way from the ATM to the vendor... But today, kids use credit cards when they buy one "Lion" candy bar at 7.95 SEK! (7.95 SEK ~= $0.99 | £0.72 | €0.81) As for privacy, without being an aluminium foil hat (or "aluminum" as you say in NA), yes it would be a problem if one could never do small favors to people for small sums in cash. But we are not exactly there quite yet... In the long run, remember that it is not only the plebeians that would suffer from this. Also all the dealings of shady BB could potentially come to the public's eye. While I don't think that will ever happen (they will just come up with yet another layer to hide it) it could, in principle. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573