From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: How to reference an article from a gmane mailing list Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 00:17:38 +0100 Message-ID: <86mtlc6m3x.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> References: <86wnkj6v41.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87r1arceup.fsf@penguin> <86sfv76rqq.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87lf0yq3s5.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5803"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 00:18:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mujiz-0001IT-Ap for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 00:18:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54586 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mujix-0006dX-Fe for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mujiS-0006dB-Ep for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:17:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.130]:53855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mujiQ-00076j-Ic for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:17:44 -0500 Original-Received: from ping ([92.116.165.37]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M4roN-1msoRJ3EWd-001wNn; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 00:17:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lf0yq3s5.fsf@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec"'s message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 19:56:26 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:g0vwMb6NOFRp1h6HFxkB4v+PV/EoCl9haWi81inmemTRkLAHNjs WVAxtdGE2XLjRd/tUGSA0Kj+HjqLryZuuUpMr6Jcn97AmSpRG4VbufSZ28TKxem9fP5m+Kt ejdSDUt6yvhcaeQ3beY5cPVxomD5UZOmVJ9mk058f15IkNsoqDCCbc+4GP2wr/bp94Q2qkz U2IZsanV57yI0Ztejj43g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:fgszzFkAAQ0=:I7Ht4QkGCWZq1OUBqsXzVZ ZRV98AT7gRxlx+5Xg1FbhF4y8Tf5LhFARkz6ciU2lv9q5AVDH0eCKPH9MjJ1A93pGS9jt+pXg wYTxhsZjQ5latUWTiWY9D1mg820Vpb3GASTtbS8sH9So8Dj2eJzkg8cdWa0JnAzkXhIfImuGH Egehjk3OXGQt9oVZoUS7hr5bwfeMbfHQPE5mx4rWoi0lyprVtnSXKgm9LYfTnGg4YxTygCNn2 NMq4KBELRYxO/lrP+wWN+ln30h3C3q16zULGlVN2CBvlN182dDn4iBoNstAX9UMiqPMXjuFcA qSbHkaso5sskQFk0Tr6cORqL3pD2OWYV19zj10EaOTmNR4XIGI9J8+9WLdWfrupouSlhlT16y I8nn4u3a0r2wBwmGh9fUIsBZuCqMfrxN9QQGMOyXKjr9kv3DS970kTKxf9bUj5Z9CM7CGsPgw lpfcl7xTDSRSqAedKC7MWQBfSRXu/XpVkbvnBQzMF+6+hKROtmY4ULA/HPoc+tNyA/loT2hwN 7w2oRbrjaZhijUraqpUh4XsWvqiW+WVAiiYGbfnClmcGdqNdHgllNFeSkL7H0MrT2OPSdV6m8 rm5gtSXd6pZjXml7oqdbOl+DNcx3nVzMZ/Cv9L2SfZzOonGsFdTP3qyh9Q2O6D7Pg4bK7ULW4 MjOMmqEYpUUa5jf7NIzfzD4xt6bO36Fr+Op11VyP+EVpaelOJcr3HpJHtjbjfYATyjQs9fQwY ULh7ah177czZPtgK Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.227.126.130; envelope-from=dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134872 Archived-At: Hello K=C3=A9vin K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec writes: > Assuming the "references" you're interested in are message IDs, Actually I thought originally on some "link" functionality, but in a wider sense, anything which makes a post unique. > "H. Dieter Wilhelm" writes: > >> But when I would like to refer to a post in another threat?=20 > > While reading a post (or "article" in Gnusspeak) in the summary buffer, > you can hit "C-u g" to see the raw message; somewhere in there you'll > see this header: > >> Message-ID: <86sfv76rqq.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> I see, checking some arbitrary post's message ID from emacs-devel: Message-ID: <87a6hc9kge.fsf@telefonica.net> But I can't activate or clicking it in message mode, at least in the *unsent wide reply...* buffer. > Not sure if Gnus has a keybinding to copy them without going through > "C-u g"; FWIW I've written this small helper: > (defun my/kill-message-id () (interactive) (kill-new (mail-header-message-id (gnus-summary-article-header)))) <871r2ofls5.fsf@gmail.com> (for the current one) Thanks, it seems to work (though the cursor is skipping to the end of the message ;-)). > I haven't tried it, but you could probably also add "^Message-Id:" to > gnus-visible-headers. Thanks, it's working for me. :-) > Last option that I know of: if you're looking at the mailing list's web > archives, e.g. here: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2021-12/msg00103.html Thank you for the pointer to the archive! Is the GNU organisation itself maintaining such archives? > You'll see a comment in the HTML source with this same message ID: > >> I see, but how did you find this article? I tried to search (for parts) of the message ID and this seems not to work. If I want to use html links for such archives I need to search, for example, for the time of the post or the author to get to a particular message in the web archive, right? >> And I would >> like you to be able to read (or at least find) this article as well. >> How to do that? > > Two ways that I know of: > > - Gnus adds buttons on top of message IDs, so either clicking those or > TAB'ing your way to them and hitting RET will fetch the corresponding > article, OK, I should be able to check this, after having send this message. :-) > - "j" in the summary buffer will prompt for a message ID and fetch it. yes "j" works, how nice. So, actually, I don't need to search in an html archive for a link, I just have to paste the respective message ID of a post I want to reference to, great! Oh wait! What about Gmail or other mail readers of Emacs, do they have this functionality as well? > Hope that helps. Well, at a first read, your messages only confused me. But now it seems that you gave me already more than I was asking for! :-) Thank you very much. Dieter --=20 Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany