From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Improving Scroll Bar Tools Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 11:36:27 +0300 Message-ID: <86msow3fuc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875xvl25sx.fsf@yahoo.com> <871q69237j.fsf@yahoo.com> <1ICXks4QeJPHggA-e4wSMYxpTpXSYkXJBnUqpf2GfutGPYTX-qKpvK__UEV5IV-7BZ_iTCVCXIJwF0F5Z3gkxrhRtvO-Bz40azno5wGTLdM=@protonmail.com> <86seyo3kkf.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7771"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 11 10:36:55 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5iDu-0001l7-Pi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 10:36:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5iDZ-00016x-Mk; Sat, 11 May 2024 04:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5iDX-00016h-Ft for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 04:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5iDX-0005iu-7f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2024 04:36:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=FGCLxMSn4jFdkz9SM1De9xR2YBP5Owi5v9qzyHvNcx0=; b=CWm2MV9ZLr9F k8LCosPmxUBnTQ90njlQnG7UEgsC9XSCEK19S34W5MjlxpCG+6j/km42iZXhOx/9Y7biIvtX5q7nj I9YUe7AZG8G/frwhtHQV0tjAli6BZA5O8D2E74kaJsgC4twtCV81DvtWgARz7ILN4g02gD6BulbIZ IlTiyGOQQfRefzTdBDi5SBBZiQyYw0tDzEB3d1/S1k2/OgIrni5nhjqpd0LtWwqQCzEaf6F9/bL+D 0+y1ShqUiaKT3V943v0970ntsvY0gKUbhrvTrxwaMk3mEnDRj4cB7SgFH1V5DprDkPLlyVeIhdwqB FEZ2hqDR/M3eqIUCW3GJnw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Heime on Sat, 11 May 2024 07:37:35 +0000) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:146678 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 07:37:35 +0000 > From: Heime > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > If one wants to remove horizontal scroll in all windows in frame, > > the command should be expected to do so, nothwithstanding any > > previous changes with a different command (e.g. set-window-scroll-bars). > > One cannot expect users to remember whether a specific window in a frame > has been changed with set-window-scroll-bars. And if one wants a global > change, one has to go on each window individually to change their setting. Users aren't supposed to invoke set-window-scroll-bars, as it is not a user command. > Simply allowing the modes to take effect is more understandable, convenient > and easy to use. And wrong, for the reasons I explained in the previous message.