From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 01:24:15 +0200 Message-ID: <86lfz7s3mo.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> <87woirsvdb.fsf@telefonica.net> <87sgtfsswd.fsf@telefonica.net> <76f6370c-e8b7-bc59-634c-c48ea7af7f70@yandex.ru> <87lfz7sqb9.fsf@telefonica.net> <9f750259-44f6-4d39-b01c-db440e8d8782@default> <20190515193833.7n5aiogfwx4jjkzr@Ergus> <20190515200930.ltwwgjjfpnvpcjv6@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="257954"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 16 01:24:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hR3GT-00150P-Rs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 01:24:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR3GS-0006Ce-Qb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 19:24:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR3G9-0006CM-11 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 19:24:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR3G7-000728-Pe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 19:24:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41380 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR3G7-00071c-IP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 19:24:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hR3G1-0014V0-A3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 01:24:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:RmiwDamNSwiXyBWb8uMeS8LvVL8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120431 Archived-At: Ergus wrote: > But that's the point. The common features in > emacs should have the same base behavior > independently of the mode (comment region, > hungry deletion indent region, send to > terminal (compile and execute)/ send mail/ > commit) It is desirable but not something to worry too much about. Better be creative doing more creative stuff. Here is a list of bike tires [1]. As you see, there are three different systems, or four actually, and one has an extension one might say, so let's settle for 4.5 systems. And all those tires? Does it really make sense to have one 56-559 and one 54-559 tire? Perhaps not! But it's reality. And Emacs is also part of reality. But before we get lost in a principal discussion... Isn't what you mention the case already to a large extent? When exactly is what key doing something totally unexpected in your opinion? [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/bike/TIRE -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal