* bike shifting - output decimal in percent
@ 2019-05-19 1:34 Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 3:50 ` Drew Adams
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-05-19 1:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
How do I output a decimal float digit
0 <= x <= 1 into percent? ("A percentage?"
Correct English?)
I asked at #emacs@irc.freenode.net and got the
below answer, which, as you see, works fine.
But I wonder if/why-not there is/isn't
a built-in way to do it?
Context:
;; thanks to friend at #emacs
(defun percent-string (decimal)
(concat
(number-to-string
(round (* 100 decimal)) ) "%") )
;; test: (percent-string 0.42857142857142855) ; "43%"
(defun bike-compute-step (from to)
(percent-string
(/ (- from to)
from
1.0) ))
;; test - should be 43% for
;; one 42t and one 24t chainring
;; according to an article in the spring 2019 issue
;; of "Bicycle Quarterly" (ISSN 1941-8809) -
;; (bike-compute-step 42 24) ; "43%"
Whole file:
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/emacs-init/bike.el
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* RE: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 1:34 bike shifting - output decimal in percent Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-05-19 3:50 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-19 3:57 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-19 7:05 ` Emanuel Berg
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2019-05-19 3:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
> How do I output a decimal float digit
> 0 <= x <= 1 into percent? ("A percentage?"
> Correct English?)
>
> But I wonder if/why-not there is/isn't
> a built-in way to do it?
Use function `format'. See `C-h f format' and
(elisp) `Formatting Strings'.
E.g.
(setq foo 0.314159265358979)
(format "%2.14g%%" (* 100.0 foo))
=> "31.459265358979%"
(format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 foo))
=> "31%"
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* RE: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 3:50 ` Drew Adams
@ 2019-05-19 3:57 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-19 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-19 7:05 ` Emanuel Berg
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2019-05-19 3:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
> Use function `format'. See `C-h f format' and
> (elisp) `Formatting Strings'.
BTW, Common Lisp has an even more formidable
`format' - a veritable language unto itself.
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/clm/node200.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Format_(Common_Lisp)
http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/lw50/CLHS/Body/f_format.htm
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* RE: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 3:57 ` Drew Adams
@ 2019-05-19 4:09 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2019-05-19 4:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
> BTW, Common Lisp has an even more formidable
> `format' - a veritable language unto itself.
Oh, and this page has examples and explanation:
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/a-few-format-recipes.html
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* Re: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 3:50 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-19 3:57 ` Drew Adams
@ 2019-05-19 7:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 7:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 14:15 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-05-19 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Drew Adams wrote:
>> How do I output a decimal float digit0 <=
>> x <= 1 into percent? ("A percentage?"
>> Correct English?) [...]
>>
>> But I wonder if/why-not there is/isn't
>> a built-in way to do it?
>
> Use function `format'. See `C-h f format' and
> (elisp) `Formatting Strings'.
You mean
(info "(elisp) Formatting Strings")
?
> (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 foo)) => "31%"
Great, thanks a lot :)
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* Re: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 7:05 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-05-19 7:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 7:53 ` Tomas Nordin
2019-05-19 14:26 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-19 14:15 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-05-19 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
>> (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 foo)) => "31%"
>
> Great, thanks a lot :)
Oups, spoke (no pun intended :)) too soon.
Too much respect for Drew, I suppose ;)
But to be honest, the original program is
_much_ better. Check out the examples below:
;; secret bonus program :)
;; thanks to friend at #emacs
(defun percent-string (decimal)
(concat
(number-to-string
(round (* 100 decimal)) ) "%") )
;; test: (percent-string 0.42857142857142855) ; "43%"
(defun bike-compute-step (from to)
(percent-string
(/ (- from to)
from
1.0) ))
;; test - should be 43% for
;; one 42t and one 24t chainring
;; according to an article in the spring 2019 issue
;; of "Bicycle Quarterly" (ISSN 1941-8809) -
;; (bike-compute-step 42 24) ; "43%"
;; (percent-string 0.01) ; "1%"
;; (percent-string 0.1) ; "10%"
;; (percent-string 1) ; "100%
;; (percent-string 2) ; "200%"
;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 0.01)) ; " 1%" (?)
;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 0.1)) ; "10%"
;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 1)) ; "1e+02%" (!?)
;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 2)) ; "2e+02%" (...)
File: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/bike.el
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* Re: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 7:35 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-05-19 7:53 ` Tomas Nordin
2019-05-19 8:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 14:26 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Tomas Nordin @ 2019-05-19 7:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> writes:
>>> (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 foo)) => "31%"
>>
>> Great, thanks a lot :)
>
> Oups, spoke (no pun intended :)) too soon.
> Too much respect for Drew, I suppose ;)
>
> But to be honest, the original program is
> _much_ better. Check out the examples below:
>
> ;; secret bonus program :)
> ;; thanks to friend at #emacs
> (defun percent-string (decimal)
> (concat
> (number-to-string
> (round (* 100 decimal)) ) "%") )
> ;; test: (percent-string 0.42857142857142855) ; "43%"
>
> (defun bike-compute-step (from to)
> (percent-string
> (/ (- from to)
> from
> 1.0) ))
> ;; test - should be 43% for
> ;; one 42t and one 24t chainring
> ;; according to an article in the spring 2019 issue
> ;; of "Bicycle Quarterly" (ISSN 1941-8809) -
> ;; (bike-compute-step 42 24) ; "43%"
>
> ;; (percent-string 0.01) ; "1%"
> ;; (percent-string 0.1) ; "10%"
> ;; (percent-string 1) ; "100%
> ;; (percent-string 2) ; "200%"
>
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 0.01)) ; " 1%" (?)
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 0.1)) ; "10%"
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 1)) ; "1e+02%" (!?)
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 2)) ; "2e+02%" (...)
Why not just use good old %f?
(format "%.0f%%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13%"
Or respecting SI recommendations:
(format "%.0f %%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13 %"
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* Re: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 7:53 ` Tomas Nordin
@ 2019-05-19 8:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 8:15 ` Tomas Nordin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-05-19 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Tomas Nordin wrote:
> Why not just use good old %f?
>
> (format "%.0f%%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13%"
Congrats, it works:
;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 0.01 100)) ; "1%"
;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 0.1 100)) ; "10%"
;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 1 100)) ; "100%"
;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 2 100)) ; "200%"
> Or respecting SI recommendations:
>
> (format "%.0f %%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13 %"
Maybe if DIN recommended the same thing...
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* Re: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 8:02 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-05-19 8:15 ` Tomas Nordin
2019-05-19 8:26 ` Emanuel Berg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Tomas Nordin @ 2019-05-19 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu> writes:
> Tomas Nordin wrote:
>
>> Why not just use good old %f?
>>
>> (format "%.0f%%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13%"
>
> Congrats, it works:
>
> ;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 0.01 100)) ; "1%"
> ;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 0.1 100)) ; "10%"
> ;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 1 100)) ; "100%"
> ;; (format "%.0f%%" (* 2 100)) ; "200%"
>
>> Or respecting SI recommendations:
>>
>> (format "%.0f %%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13 %"
>
> Maybe if DIN recommended the same thing...
Straigh from the almighty Wikipedia:
"In German, the space is prescribed by the regulatory body in the
national standard DIN 5008."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent_sign
>
> --
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> https://dataswamp.org/~incal
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* Re: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 8:15 ` Tomas Nordin
@ 2019-05-19 8:26 ` Emanuel Berg
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2019-05-19 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Tomas Nordin wrote:
>>> Or respecting SI recommendations:
>>>
>>> (format "%.0f %%" (* 0.127 100)) ;; -> "13 %"
>>
>> Maybe if DIN recommended the same thing...
>
> Straigh from the almighty Wikipedia:
>
> "In German, the space is prescribed by the
> regulatory body in the national standard
> DIN 5008."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent_sign
Ha! Respect!
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* RE: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 7:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 7:35 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2019-05-19 14:15 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2019-05-19 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
> > See (elisp) `Formatting Strings'.
> You mean (info "(elisp) Formatting Strings")?
Yes.
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* RE: bike shifting - output decimal in percent
2019-05-19 7:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2019-05-19 7:53 ` Tomas Nordin
@ 2019-05-19 14:26 ` Drew Adams
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2019-05-19 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuel Berg, help-gnu-emacs
> the original program is _much_ better:
>
> ;; test - should be 43% for
> ;; (bike-compute-step 42 24) ; "43%"
>
> ;; (percent-string 0.01) ; "1%"
> ;; (percent-string 0.1) ; "10%"
> ;; (percent-string 1) ; "100%
> ;; (percent-string 2) ; "200%"
>
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 0.01)) ; " 1%" (?)
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 0.1)) ; "10%"
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 1)) ; "1e+02%" (!?)
> ;; (format "%2.2g%%" (* 100.0 2)) ; "2e+02%" (...)
It all depends on what you want and what your expected
input is.
(format "%1.1d%%" (* 100.0 0.01)) ; "1%"
(format "%1.1d%%" (* 100.0 0.1)) ; "10%"
(format "%1.1d%%" (* 100.0 1)) ; "100%"
(format "%1.1d%%" (* 100.0 2)) ; "200%"
(format "%1.1d%%" (round (* 100.0 0.42857142857142855))) ; "43%"
(defun percent-string (decimal)
(format "%2.1d%%" (round (* 100.0 decimal))))
Like I said (regarding CL `format', but the same is true
of Emacs-Lisp `format': it's a language unto itself.
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