From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: feature request: horizontal scroll bar Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:09:37 +0200 Message-ID: <86ipdlp8xq.fsf@web.de> References: <64fa8a68-d45d-4b55-82bc-54aa9ef1cfef@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342613365 22418 80.91.229.3 (18 Jul 2012 12:09:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ulrich Scholz To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 18 14:09:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SrT4G-0005yB-7C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:09:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34132 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SrT4F-0007BH-FC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:09:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SrT47-00073q-3A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:09:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SrT41-0007PI-N2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:09:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:53604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SrT41-0007Ns-DB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from dragon.dragon ([188.98.98.25]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LwHxK-1Tvvih0dUU-017LRN; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:09:05 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Ulrich Scholz In-Reply-To: (Ulrich Scholz's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:00:29 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:hj52FYpeqk9iJSx/cSoM0h8DLXfviNnqm3hvYn+g3Dg qxxjADqU6i+luGOJf532qR7j/3T0qNv7BG64Or67hru0y3oQ4D 9wm3R0LAA4yhUzSIN4NhnUG1a9E1blTuLKKEeFAnCuv8nTbuSU AMIylK9qZ23RFDWn92CpEp66LU3NuDB/SUrgw8F1O3NyIN1vAm xn39w7Y8SL/12VmAOOjsjMIthOcAZO3adje6Fa8b64= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85913 Archived-At: Ulrich Scholz writes: > Three things > > 1) A horizontal scroll bar gives a visual feedback of where you are. I > have very wide files with empty spots. You can get lost. > > 2) Scroll bars allow to move the visual ara without moving the cursor. > (Ok, that migth be achievable with keys, too.) > > 3) Scroll bars are good for going far in large files. Well, 90% of > navigation consists of short distances in small files. But for the > remaining 10%, scroll bars are much better. I use Emacs for many years now, and horizontal scroll bars are among the things I miss most. If you make some progress here, I think, many people would be thankful. Please don't give up! Michael.