From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Advantage using mapc over dolist Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 19:40:54 +0200 Message-ID: <86iks01x7d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zflevbwm.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87h67ku813.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87ed2ou65o.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87a5dcu5d5.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <86ldww1yl3.fsf@gnu.org> <877c8gu0wv.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7910"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 03 18:41:35 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tIWtz-0001ny-6a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:41:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIWtV-000433-60; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 12:41:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIWtQ-00042G-9A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 12:41:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tIWtO-0004HQ-Fr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2024 12:40:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=kuitRFEuA34sp0TQRGJez3+ttKzvALgS4VqwF7CLqio=; b=lDZ6pA84XRwJ 1zgedIRzhdCQV5jqUkHmiIPyljAF5c1WpbE4DkvLEA1bAoUoTrt8RzvmgMVDMYqpIczoicY05JEVq D8QdxwVdmTASy0kVEvQKjFu4Anaqz7ggtZDb1IY1invW+57wfCIdqIWbxxXNUD236J6ULAVgv6icN rJAdYBpkrzekqyfyGC1beJ2UDPpfcrW6fz0/5KOtFZRzTmgYLbUOcDLEWqJaQWOtWa/Lo8kOLbpsF nYVBuVqIAaJ/o67PXcSjTR9KD5Mf3c5/W11MZqaWkYVem9F1XDBgC+T60W7xAgfnT+Q1vKrlJKXNr GP+WRTLjmIqde8jwWfvhuA==; In-Reply-To: <877c8gu0wv.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (message from Tomas Hlavaty on Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:33:20 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148547 Archived-At: > From: Tomas Hlavaty > Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:33:20 +0100 > > On Tue 03 Dec 2024 at 19:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> And now thanks to pcase there is also cond*. > >> What a mess. > > > > I honestly don't understand why having several more-or-less equivalent > > forms, all accepted and used, so that each user can use whatever he or > > she likes, is "a mess". In my book, it's "user-friendliness", let > > alone "flexibility". > > I would agree if there still were traditional CASE, ECASE etc. so that > there would be > > several more-or-less equivalent forms, all accepted and used, so that > each user can use whatever he or she likes > > But this is exactly the point, that what you suggest is not true but > should be. If your only gripe is about the names of cl-case and cl-ecase, then why mention pcase and cond*? they were not renamed and didn't come from CL. And why is it "a mess"? You've made abundantly clear that you didn't like the cl- names, why is there a need to add unrelated accusations?