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From: "Sebastien Vauban" <sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/iDocfnWg@public.gmane.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Speeding up Emacs load time
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:25:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fvv3cd9v.fsf@somewhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1720.1374700982.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Hi J. David,

J. David Boyd wrote:
> "Sebastien Vauban" <sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/iDocfnWg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> Glyn Millington wrote:
>>> One popular technique is not to load packages until you need 'em. That means
>>> fewer 'requires' in your .emacs/init.el file and more autoloads.
>>>
>>> See tips 3-5 here!
>>>
>>> http://a-nickels-worth.blogspot.co.uk/2007/11/effective-emacs.html
>>>
>>> The key function is eval-after-load
>>
>> I'm using GNU Emacs on Windows, and using the above, I could reduce my load
>> time from 10+ seconds to 3 seconds. Still 3 x over many of you, which report
>> sub-seconds load time.
>>
>> Though, I'm a bit blocked. I don't understand how to do better, or how to
>> completely avoid all the require commands.
>>
>> Just take a few exemple:
>>
>> - `(server-start)' takes more than 200 ms to run [1]; just that one command.
>>   Though, I must have it in my .emacs file, right?
>>
>> - diff-mode-.el must be loaded before diff-mode; hence, I must have it at
>>   startup.
>>
>> - Helm is my tool for opening files or switching between buffers. Just
>>   requiring `helm-config' (almost only autoloads) -- hence, NOT `helm' (which
>>   is more hungry in time) -- already takes 160 ms (as it still requires
>>   `easy-menu' and `helm-aliases').
>>
>> - `diary-lib' and co (needed for appointments notification) takes 233 ms.
>>   Shouldn't I be notified at startup of events occurring in less than 15
>>   minutes, without having to make a first call to calendar or so?
>>
>> - `mic-paren' takes just 32 ms, but for just one small package, for which I
>>   don't have a particular trigger. Is it `find-file-hook'?  Then, I won't have
>>   parenthesis highlighted when directly typing text in a newly created buffer
>>   (or in the scratch). So, I need it in my .emacs. It's not eval'ed-after-load
>>   of something else.
>>
>> - The same for YASnippet (loaded in 130 ms): what would be the trigger?
>>   Unless I have a clear one, I must require it in my .emacs file.
>>
>> - Once again, the same with `recentf', which takes 92 ms. Don't I have to load
>>   it right at startup?
>>
>> These are a couple of examples which take a lot of the time, and for which I
>> don't see a specific trigger that would allow me to defer their load to later.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>   Seb
>>
>> [1] The above are times on a very recent laptop i7, when on mains. Multiply
>>     times by 3.5 when on battery.
>
> Are you using Cygwin?  And the X11 binary, or the Ming-W binary?

I'm using

    GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-07 on LEG570

(compiled W32 binary from DropBox in this case, by Dani Moncayo) -- but I
indifferently use the (older, I mean for Emacs 24.3) binaries as well from the
FSF Web site. So, I never (try to) compile Emacs by myself.

I do have Cygwin installed on my machine.

I don't use Ming-W nor X11.

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sebastien Vauban


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-25  7:25 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] ` <CAHXt_SUL6a0q0q5nbJ3aw301C2--85e_Q3vVvPA7yxMvPbJ5mQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-06-25 23:06   ` Speeding up Emacs load time Andrew Pennebaker
2013-06-26  2:02     ` Hongxu Chen
2013-06-26  7:30       ` Didier Verna
2013-06-26 17:04     ` J. David Boyd
2013-06-26 17:15       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-07-15  1:02       ` Ken Goldman
2013-07-15  1:33         ` Andrew Pennebaker
2013-07-15  6:20           ` Glyn Millington
2013-07-15  8:15             ` Rasmus
2013-07-15  8:05           ` Peter Dyballa
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2013-07-24 20:50             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-07-24 21:22               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-25  7:25                 ` Sebastien Vauban [this message]
2013-07-25 14:20               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-25 19:24                 ` Sebastien Vauban
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2013-07-15 14:06           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-15 14:45             ` Peter Dyballa
2013-07-15 15:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-15 16:08               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-15 17:00               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-15 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-07-15 19:49                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16  2:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-20 22:08                       ` Ken Goldman
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2013-07-16  4:13                       ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16  9:42                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 13:37                           ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16 13:39                           ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16 20:13                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 21:02                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  0:54                               ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-17  1:41                                 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-17  2:24                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  2:42                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-17  8:30                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  9:31                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-19 10:18                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-19 14:51                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-19 16:02                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-20  0:03                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-20  4:27                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-20  4:35                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-08-28 23:08                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 17:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-16 10:07                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 17:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-07-16 19:58                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 20:38                             ` Peter Dyballa
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2013-07-16 21:11                               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  8:36                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-07-16 21:25                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-17  0:57                               ` Juanma Barranquero
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2013-07-16 21:37                               ` Dan Espen
2013-07-16 22:05                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-17  1:02                                   ` Dan Espen
2013-07-17  4:29                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-17  6:04                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 12:24                                         ` Eye strain and ergonomics Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-18 20:01                                           ` James Freer
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2013-07-19 10:30                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 12:36                                       ` Speeding up Emacs load time Dan Espen
2013-07-16 21:40                               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 22:21                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-16 22:55                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 23:48                                     ` Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Drew Adams
2013-07-17  2:54                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-19 16:21                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-07-19 17:24                                         ` Drew Adams
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2013-07-20  4:20                                           ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-20  4:23                                         ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-17  0:04                                       ` Highway Musophobia Revisited Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  3:09                                         ` Drew Adams
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2013-07-17  6:14                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 10:42                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-17 10:42                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-17 16:20                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-07-17 12:27                                       ` Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Rustom Mody
2013-07-19 10:35                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16  5:12                 ` Speeding up Emacs load time Jambunathan K
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2013-07-16  9:51                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 12:26                     ` Jambunathan K
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2013-07-16 20:15                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-28  3:20     ` Bob Proulx
2013-06-28  5:27       ` Hongxu Chen
2013-06-28 19:53         ` Bob Proulx
2013-06-28 12:48       ` J. David Boyd
2013-06-28 14:00         ` J. David Boyd
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2013-06-28 14:16           ` Dan Espen
2013-06-28 19:06             ` Bob Proulx
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2013-06-28 20:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-29  5:04         ` Eric Abrahamsen
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2013-06-29 17:44           ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30  0:45             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-06-30 12:46             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 14:04               ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30 18:06                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 15:00               ` Eric Abrahamsen
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2013-06-30 16:07                 ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30 18:17                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 18:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-01  5:29                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-06-29 17:51         ` Bob Proulx
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2013-06-30 12:36           ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-06-26  1:16     ` Dan Espen
2013-06-27 16:14     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-27 17:50       ` J. David Boyd
2013-07-21  3:59     ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-21 14:18       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-21 14:41         ` Rustom Mody

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