From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: info-find-source Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:54:06 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86efmtgng1.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86bmhyk2qy.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515898414 27670 195.159.176.226 (14 Jan 2018 02:53:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 02:53:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 14 03:53:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eaYQM-0006rK-BA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:53:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaYSL-0006JH-PV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:55:33 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.unit0.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 59 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: zRXoCvQ6k9fneBfYPnB6lQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:vqoxayo3qwsH1zn+LI1iEoaf22I= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:221590 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115707 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski wrote: > This is the point. Underneath, Info is > *still* linear. Of course, because otherwise it couldn't be put into a single file where all the items appear in order! (Here "Info" means the data, or documentation, not the browser or Emacs mode.) > I can't see *any* gain from your function. OK, the gain is it brings up the raw source file associated with the info file you are browsing. Or at least that is the purpose as I haven't had time testing it a lot. But because there exists a correlation between the source file and what is displayed with the info browser, the Holy Grail cannot be farther away than the expected initial problems. Actually, I cannot see "any gain" from displaying the data as a tree! The only gain I can see is hypertext. I see the point of that, but I see that as something similar of, you ask a person "how do you do X? what do you need to do it?" and s/he says "Ask P about that. Or go to the HW store and ask them" - if you on the contrary know what data you desire, and you know where it is, there is no need for any form of hypertext, be it "On-Line" or on the Internet. Instead of following links you go directly to the Rainbow's End, acquire the item, and return. The drawbacks from using Info compared to text are it's a mode from which you have much less experience and thus much less fluency, and it isn't always true that all your tweaks and extensions fit seamlessly into info, while this cannot be an issue for text, as that is the original habitate anyway! > And if I really wanted something like that, > I'd probably use "no new keystrokes to learn" > (using your own words!) and stick with plain > old `C-x n w'. > > Please try it out and tell me how your > solution is superior. You don't have to do `M-x text-mode RET' after you do `C-x n w'? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573