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[139.218.25.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-2162b052ee8sm95460195ad.45.2024.12.12.13.12.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:12:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ldwkc22k.fsf@librehacker.com> (Christopher Howard's message of "Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:12:51 -0900") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::632; envelope-from=joel.reicher@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x632.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148783 Archived-At: Christopher Howard writes: > Joel Reicher writes: > >> IMAP is a bit of a special case; where possible (always, >> perhaps?) Gnus will use IMAP flags stored on the server for >> representing things like readedness marks, ticks, etc. > > I'm working through the manual sections on scoring, and it says > that messages below a certain score threshold are marked as > read. So I think that would take care of the concern I have, > since it appears that (somehow or other) messages marked "read" > are also marked as such on the IMAP server itself. The default > score threshold is 0, so presumably it must be possible to give > something a negative score. I think you're right. My understanding is that scoring is "before" readedness. Once an IMAP article is marked as read (whether by score processing or anything else) Gnus will store that readedness mark on the server as part of normal IMAP support, same as many other marks for an IMAP article. Regards, - Joel