From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: steinab@ifi.uio.no (Steinar =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F8rmer?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:46:22 +0100 Organization: :noitazinagrO Message-ID: <86d5tvx69t.fsf@pallotta.studby.uio.no> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1111219043.820733.143980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111230695 30822 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 11:11:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 12:11:35 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCbr1-0008Il-Ii for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:10:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCc6m-00015B-Cv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:27:08 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.tdcnorge.no!news.banetele.no!uio.no!quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ti400720a081-6635.bb.online.no Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1111229045 9019 85.164.217.235 (19 Mar 2005 10:44:05 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:44:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dimKXbpcdcUANlm3R2GDJ9yJrY0= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129380 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24935 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24935 David Kastrup wrote: | Transient mark mode is an abomination. It really needed to be | replaced by the implementation of temporary transient mark mode (which | also is activated by dragging the mouse) in Emacs 22. | | Have you tried CVS Emacs recently? There definitely is no reason to | use transient-mark mode permanently any more. I don't quite see how you can say that. Temporary transient mark mode has a point, yes, but I would rather have it enabled permanently rather than needing a keybinding each time I need it. (I never mark a region with the mouse). The problem for me is that without transient mark mode, I often run into situations where I mark the "wrong" region, and then I have to go back and do it all over again. Then I'd have to press `C-SPC C-SPC' before marking once more. Would you care to elaborate on this? -- SB