From: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:03:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86d0ruovf0.fsf@zoho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2937.1540710329.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Alan E. Davis wrote:
> First, I am not a programmer. I have
> a different perspective. I see Elisp as an
> integral component of Emacs---the Extensible
> Self Documenting Editor. That is the very
> core of it. This is sets itself apart from
> any other editor. I will never be an expert
> at lisp, but I can extend Emacs while
> refering to documentation of the editor and
> Elisp, all at my fingertips. It is a stroke
> of brilliance, just one of the reasons I am
> grateful for the work of Richard Stallman.
>
> Emacs fell into my hands unexpectedly, just
> when I seriously needed a tool for my project
> developing a lexicon of animal names in
> a Pacific language complex. I was looking for
> an editor that I could make a simple macro to
> type letters with diacritical marks.
> Multi-Edit seems to me to work just fine.
> It was all I had, provided to me by
> a lingust. The trial version was "free", in
> dollars and cents terms; yet it was a form of
> cripple ware: to get the full use of it would
> require a manual, which would cost 350.00, an
> impossible sum for me. Emacs came with an
> amazing manual.
>
> I had seen the very name of the Free Software
> Foundation, and, not knowing anything about
> it's purpose or cause, I wrote to request
> some free software. I lived on an isolated
> island, so it took some time before
> I received a package with 13 3-1/2" disks,
> with a port of Emacs to Windows 3, called
> Demacs, and a suite of unix utilities ported
> to Windows 3 by Cygnus, if I recall
> correctly. This was in about 1992. Unix tools
> were perfect for my intended project of
> "digitizing" a growing body or data on animal
> names. Sort and string manipulation utilities
> were most welcome.
>
> So I had a toolkit of unimaginable utility,
> perfectly suited to my need. Elisp was part
> and parcel of it all. I had some limited
> familiarity with computers, so I was able to
> work my way though the documentation---all of
> it included as part of Emacs, and available
> just when one needed it. This is another part
> of the brilliant scheme that is Emacs: the
> TexInfo documentation could not be easier
> to use.
>
> I haven't told this story often enough, but
> it is beside the point. The point is the
> Elisp is integrated with the editor, making
> it quite unique in my experience. It can be
> learned independently, absent any course,
> though I admit I have struggled to learn the
> little that I have, and to do complicated
> things I needed help. I would think that
> a course in Elsip would be extremely
> interesting. First, one needs to find a young
> person whose interests align well with
> the tool.
Thanks for sharing this story. I enjoyed
reading it.
--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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2018-10-24 15:23 Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-24 16:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-24 22:24 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-24 23:30 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-25 3:31 ` Van L
2018-10-25 19:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 11:43 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-26 13:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 10:50 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-11-14 23:27 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15 3:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-15 4:47 ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15 8:04 ` tomas
2018-11-15 20:01 ` Bob Proulx
[not found] ` <mailman.4061.1542238084.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-17 15:41 ` Gene
2018-11-17 17:39 ` Java-mode Debug question ? Francis Belliveau
2018-11-17 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-18 12:34 ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-18 15:32 ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27 1:06 ` Problem with CC mode hooks and font-locking Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27 2:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-30 21:50 ` Francis Belliveau
2018-12-01 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-01 14:33 ` Francis Belliveau
2019-02-22 4:14 ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Van L
[not found] ` <mailman.2668.1540396976.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-26 18:05 ` Gene
2018-10-27 0:54 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-27 17:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28 0:27 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28 1:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28 2:47 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28 7:04 ` Alan E. Davis
2018-10-28 7:28 ` Van L
2018-10-28 17:07 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.2937.1540710329.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28 17:03 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2018-10-28 17:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 19:30 ` Gene
2018-10-30 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-30 20:33 ` Nick Dokos
[not found] ` <mailman.3129.1540931601.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:20 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.3123.1540928817.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 20:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 20:32 ` Drew Adams
2018-10-31 2:14 ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Nuno Silva
2018-10-31 11:23 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02 1:33 ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
2018-11-02 8:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-03 12:41 ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-03 15:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-04 21:25 ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-05 20:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:02 ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02 1:23 ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
[not found] ` <mailman.3128.1540931562.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:19 ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Emanuel Berg
2018-10-31 14:22 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.3163.1540995758.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 16:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-09 9:16 ` Van L
[not found] ` <mailman.3710.1541755025.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-10 17:02 ` Gene
2018-11-04 12:17 ` Daniel Nemenyi
[not found] ` <mailman.2929.1540689371.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28 2:11 ` Gene
2018-10-28 2:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.2933.1540693317.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:35 ` Gene
2018-10-27 18:40 ` Gene
2018-10-27 19:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28 0:52 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28 1:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28 0:19 ` Garreau, Alexandre
[not found] ` <mailman.2923.1540686004.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:22 ` Gene
2018-10-31 3:54 ` Van L
2018-10-31 10:42 ` Eric S Fraga
[not found] ` <mailman.3146.1540958071.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-02 19:34 ` Gene
2018-11-02 20:45 ` Gene
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