From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tg@gmplib.org (=?utf-8?Q?Torbj=C3=B6rn?= Granlund) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another Emacs incompatibilty Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:16:20 +0200 Message-ID: <86blj9xc2z.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> References: <86r1s648dc.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86wo1xz4lt.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <83imdhgsqo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26776"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 22:16:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7lYj-0006sN-HQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:16:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37290 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7lYi-0000Sc-Ju for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:16:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7lYO-0000SV-RS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:16:24 -0400 Original-Received: from martin.gmplib.org ([130.242.124.102]:51605 helo=shell.gmplib.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7lYN-0007xG-2Y; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:16:24 -0400 Original-Received: by shell.gmplib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 64CEBFD4D; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 22:16:20 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83imdhgsqo.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2020 19:08:31 +0300") Received-SPF: none client-ip=130.242.124.102; envelope-from=tg@gmplib.org; helo=shell.gmplib.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/17 16:16:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = FreeBSD 9.x or newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123697 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: It would help if you'd tell what changes in how region works you are alluding to. I use Emacs for the last 30 years, and the way region works for me didn't change at all, AFAICT. So I'm really puzzled by what you say here. Mark a region, immediately press e.g. "A". The region is zapped and replaced by an A. That used to insert an A at the insert point since TECO emacs until a few releases back. (There is also an implicit mode in the new behavioutr: Only regions just created exhibit the incompatible zap behavioutr.) In any case, whenever a backward-incompatible change happens, there's usually a way, called out in NEWS, to get back old behavior. How about keeping the accepted interface and document in NEWS how to make it work in a new, incompatible way? --=20 Torbj=C3=B6rn Please encrypt, key id 0xC8601622