From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using R-mail in Emacs Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:42:57 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86a7oicu8u.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86va7afpda.fsf@zoho.com> <83musmktmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2hxstkw.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <837ejplc7p.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhwlzct5.fsf@gmail.com> <87d0tgh6rx.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <865zz8e0kd.fsf@zoho.com> <861s9wdytg.fsf@zoho.com> <86worocffa.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9czder0.fsf@zoho.com> <86in36df2x.fsf@zoho.com> <86efdud83a.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537047802 860 195.159.176.226 (15 Sep 2018 21:43:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:43:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 23:43:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g1ILW-00006s-9X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:43:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1INc-0003uK-M9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:45:28 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 56 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: onLrbz09yV+MU3RaxdbMkg.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:Iks7vjl4rtpxxKTT9Ox4AIeccXQ= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:223809 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117934 Archived-At: The comment from RMS [1] previously mentioned was based on a misconception: just before he said that, it was brought up that few people use Rmail (or RMAIL), but this was said in the context of ~"this will make it difficult to have a lot of people testing it", not to say Rmail was unimportant because few people were using it, which was RMS' interpretation. So maybe the comment of Rmail being the "primary" mail-reader for Emacs was a stretch, because he, for the wrong reason, felt the need to defend it? BTW that whole thread was discussing the transition from Babyl to mbox for Rmail, and how to get it tested before a release! Anyway here is some more interesting stuff: Alex Schroeder writes: Richard Stallman writes: I think it needs to be tested at least a little before we put it in the trunk. I don't know if anyone has actually used it yet. Our problem is that many people use Gnus for their mail. On #emacs, most people recommend to use Gnus when newbies ask for mail within Emacs. Can we look specifically for RMAIL users willing to help us test? We could ask on the newsgroups, for example. I will ask on #emacs... [2] A big problem indeed :) Also note the "We could ask on the newsgroups" ... :) RMS again: The one time I tried to start Gnus (to read news), it was so much hassle when starting up that I killed it. I recommend use of Rmail to read mail. [3] [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-09/msg00328.html [2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-09/msg00313.html [3] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-09/msg00363.html -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573