From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: steinab@ifi.uio.no (Steinar =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F8rmer?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:42:59 +0100 Organization: :noitazinagrO Message-ID: <868y4jw3jg.fsf@pallotta.studby.uio.no> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1111219043.820733.143980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <86d5tvx69t.fsf@pallotta.studby.uio.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111280006 13362 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 00:53:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 01:53:26 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCogf-0002Py-9p for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:53:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCoxS-0005pd-GO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:10:22 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.belwue.de!LF.net!quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ti400720a081-6635.bb.online.no Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1111279243 4644 85.164.217.235 (20 Mar 2005 00:40:43 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:40:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:H+n9eyZhWmF3hMaK8gONSGcX/RA= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129455 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25010 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25010 David Kastrup wrote: | With transient-mark-mode, the region tends to be marked when it annoys | me, and unmarked when I would need it. I see. For me, having it marked when it's not needed has always been a small sacrifice, as long as it's always present when needed (and for my uses, it practically always is). | An "active region" is more than just the area between point and an | active mark. For things like cut&paste, it amounts to pretty much the | same, but it also affects search&replace operation and, say, in AUCTeX | what happens if you use the keybindings for insertion environments and | font selection commands (which go _around_ the active region). I see your point. I've never gotten around to AUCTeX though, so I assume it's more of a problem there. | > Would you care to elaborate on this? | | You don't need to "go back and do it all over again". Just use C-u | C-x C-x to activate or reactivate an existing region. Yes, that works. It will still take some time before I'm convinced, because this is such a habit for me. -- SB