From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: CVE-2017-14482 - Red Hat Customer Portal Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:45:26 +0200 Message-ID: <868tgxxp9l.fsf@zoho.com> References: <1b3bec6e-d4d5-37a7-ba54-49bd2d8281bd@yandex.com> <86k20qbcu9.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9q0a8zc.fsf@zoho.com> <87vak8rwcx.fsf@qcore> <87mv5is54g.fsf@qcore> <4d048ea0-5c54-f5ba-c903-78614480ac76@yandex.com> <83a81d8ylf.fsf@gnu.org> <20170929145921.GA5297@TP-x61s.localdomain> <87zi9dqwi2.fsf@qcore> <86tvzlxvye.fsf@zoho.com> <87vak1qs1e.fsf@qcore> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506714369 14993 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 19:46:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:46:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 21:46:02 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1EV-00038R-Ot for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:45:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36815 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1Ed-0007B5-6l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:46:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35869) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1EC-0007Am-3W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:45:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1EB-0005kV-21 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:45:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=58517 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1EA-0005jo-RZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1Dy-0000X5-NO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:45:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:UcqAWCGYEXOMy9sP+IWhYXe4b/U= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114479 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes wrote: > Here the context is not having requirements > on a useful way for developing the software. > Interactive development is about > communicating with the client for extracting > a minimally specified set of requirements, > analyze them, implement them (sometimes > partially) and use that implementation as > a basis for communicating with the client > again. Rinse, repeat. Eventually the client > is happy with the result. Isn't that rather "iterative" or "ping-pong programming"? > This is not an approach you can apply to > every type of project (not really good for > avionics :-) Why not? A simulator! We have a pilot on this list. I think he can confirm a lot of the human training is done with simulators. So why can't they be used to test/sharpen new software as well? Even in combination with the human part? > provided that you have the necessary > communication skills and tools for > rapid development. Well, you want that anyway. The tools, I mean :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573