From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Noob dumb question (extending emacs) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:21:06 +0200 Message-ID: <867de4vgz1.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> References: <86k0i6uoxd.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <871r4ernmt.fsf@zoho.eu> <87o87hnrpt.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26059"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs , Emanuel Berg To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 23 00:22:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1me2w0-0006Zl-GR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:22:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45934 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1me2vz-0002Lc-Cv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 18:22:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1me2uX-0000zk-KT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 18:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.133]:59985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1me2uV-0005HJ-Lt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 18:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from ping ([92.116.174.155]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MUl4z-1mDPDn3mVt-00QjMd; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:21:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:31:24 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kqUNoH0BvNpFITEVjS+tkFV8rTfYodgLxkv1pdMj7gTTmW+TCvg 3vBgNbstk+bOzjGVoDbnLD/vgl201IW8aGnkgZ3+pyYIXneNVTRAOPY71iUeaRqh7RRPq/E QRl9vguqvz94Xb/oGiUlN5gfnsx0QWPTo+qhE1/E4TAi3RnGzK9vxgtBVeWJyPpm3QMJ+Vv MP3xZjzGesz/mlZs0Zz+g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:K4rq6xzlFa4=:4UEVbulU0K/BmD3DJaakgK XxbzfDQjIJBzvBNfnb2PYEiw1sNIpS7jhMu4kAY3UTCAORlm32CXX1Gor5Cq50IHyEeyNbCoI uCd3X0fSv/PkKXkSJ6lEcEN/ovuCEtfIFFztWj0f5Yx2pFZIaMAmxiVsfohmBU1gINK9IwhIy 41OHRRgR0D4sHekiPwRsz3WnP8RBsVFixoebz9Cb2qRYsErZ+pS8g/tu/peZIZpA8Ku2klN+V BvJJTH69gsGb+h5FojmfpezPp3jZR8xlZi+QMcbiReG5i7RrxitZJTEUaKX0vjS8NaTSFimZ0 n8vU0fKXJVA4eCiuCrs1gcDOtzOwg5iklJpBt2LGG9s6VP+RrK+s5U2q4AYdqdgIarq2wmN2R DamEbwqVmYBrASwO0pOWyzOkXSQAdf+blV/vx/5oiIyxr0fK9zkqdbWKxB0bjw8UCW39fuYxx u8LXB6kdB8wkKWAJ3vyQk/twoP09L7ax5d1C6YC0yvNo3qfpWRhpq/OItDco5Fij+BaEdYzPW mF0Kktkc+RG4mSJiqDYmAzmqR1bwAW5WbA1axt4rSr2owgZ2H8IP9hgvux5t5GBiaINlryZY1 t2fq5tzH3Q4PVNwdM4A1x6XMS97YkL+HdxdLqCGFyfwRsI50/AG7tEG41Zq/JlJ98lpnDqQdV M3uX/eJzhTI+shiWwYdWUjUlrUn/+o35Vn6XKQtWXnuNQyMrZO2g0gsqf6r+IIVwl5PJ73CQA qJlpHgo+YjM0qeE8 Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.227.126.133; envelope-from=dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134031 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > You say that passwords are not really random and Emacs Lisp is > not made for that. I've an idea, why not using the hashes of Emacs commits for lisp files? d9de0a58744d5d8f0b23a1bd4c42a0b8e4829e25 so we have both something lispy AND random! ;-) Just joking > I say that passwords can be generated practically to be random > for the user from the users' viewpoint, and it is evident. I agree Dieter -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany