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[139.218.25.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 41be03b00d2f7-91b56cb2e36sm6173215a12.17.2025.01.02.16.23.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:23:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:33:07 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::632; envelope-from=joel.reicher@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x632.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:149123 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > * Joel Reicher [2025-01-02 03:33]: >> Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor >> writes: >> >>> How can one get the result of the throw? With a let? >> >> Why are you asking on this list when it should be possible to >> get this information from (info "(elisp) Catch and Throw")? > > Sometimes it is helpful to provide info, and too often people > have misunderstanding and need explanation. Emacs is full of > terms, concepts, definitions which cause misunderstandings. If > that would not be so, I would be very happy, though it is. > > You must know that there are different types of readers, > different audience. Emacs Lisp manual is written in technical > manner, it wasn't written in manner of a tutorial. If the problem is in understanding the manual, then my very strong opinion is that the question should be asked in terms of the manual. This does three things: 1) Demonstrates good faith on the part of the enquirer that they have attempted to read the manual 2) Helps phrase the question in common terms with a minimum of unstated assumptions 3) Potentially leads to improvements in the manual Regards, - Joel