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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: the dumb Emacs terminal
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 00:38:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8660sea141.fsf_-_@student.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.949.1468101798.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

John Mastro <john.b.mastro@gmail.com> writes:

>> And does the Emacs terminal have to be dumb?
>
> M-x shell isn't really a terminal (emulator)
> at all, which is also why you can't run e.g.
> htop there.

Right, you can't use even more basic stuff like
'clear'. Is it just able to output new lines,
not change the state of what has already
been outputted?

> If you try "tput setaf 2 && echo green" in
> either M-x term or M-x ansi-term, you'll see
> that it does work there.

Now it is beyond Las Vegas - it is a *circus*!

    http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/figures/emacs/emacs-terminal-emulator.png

> I nonetheless prefer M-x shell over Emacs's
> terminal emulators.

Why go into the small workshop, when there is
a big?

Only a lot of shortcuts including M-x seem to
be shadowed by the shell, that must be dealt
with as I seldom or never use them with the
shell but with Emacs I do it all the time
obviously. So it should be mergable that way,
God willing.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-09 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08  8:02 Suggested font lock preferences for GNU Emacs Davin Pearson
2016-07-08  9:34 ` Yuri Khan
2016-07-09  1:25   ` Davin Pearson
2016-07-09 10:50     ` Alex Kost
2016-07-10  1:14       ` Davin Pearson
2016-07-10  4:30       ` Davin Pearson
     [not found]       ` <mailman.966.1468125047.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-10  5:19         ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-10 14:50           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]           ` <mailman.986.1468162252.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-10 21:24             ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-10 21:29               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1063.1468186213.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-10 21:46                 ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.959.1468113265.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-10  5:33         ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-08 12:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-08 12:20   ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]   ` <mailman.821.1467980455.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-08 13:40     ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-08 14:12       ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]       ` <mailman.831.1467987165.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-08 18:19         ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-08 21:41         ` rotating the palette (was: Re: Suggested font lock preferences for GNU Emacs) Emanuel Berg
2016-07-08 23:57           ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-09  1:57             ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-09 21:19               ` the dumb Emacs terminal (was: Re: rotating the palette) Emanuel Berg
2016-07-09 22:02                 ` John Mastro
2016-07-11 12:05                   ` the dumb Emacs terminal Dmitry Alexandrov
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.949.1468101798.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-09 22:38                   ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2016-07-10  0:01                     ` John Mastro
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.954.1468108922.26859.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-07-10  5:29                       ` Emanuel Berg
2016-07-10 22:46                       ` Emanuel Berg

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