From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for forums? Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 20:32:45 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <864lh9efxu.fsf@zoho.com> References: <87y3eryk80.fsf@openmail.cc> <874lhfop7f.fsf@127.0.0.1> <87in5vbzv3.fsf@openmail.cc> <8736wycp8h.fsf@openmail.cc> <9FC04800-4439-485E-A718-03566E9814E3@gmail.com> <87y3epb6xd.fsf@openmail.cc> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531074814 30374 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2018 18:33:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 18:33:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 08 20:33:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fcEV0-0007o3-8o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 20:33:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37868 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fcEX7-0006zy-Cd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 14:35:41 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: l2+p2HtvAuOcujDmxTie3g.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:FXmMyLpr2bqi1jhQWlBCebiU6rw= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:223265 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117388 Archived-At: tomas wrote: > Agreed. There's a war going on between the > Web on the one side, which wants me to > "experience" a web site as a designer (and > its Vulture -- uh Venture Capitalists) want > me to "see" (and sometimes to hear) it and > me, on the other side, who just wants to get > at its information in the (for me) most > convenient form possible. If I want an > "experience", I go to the > movies, thankyouverymuch. Especially the 3D ones from Marvel Studios! While I don't know if "war" is the appropriate word, I say this development has been going on for quite a couple of years. When JavaScript first appeared, it never worked. Now, they say it does, so with a GUI mindset, a mouse, and a high resolution monitor, I see why some people like it. So now it is not about what is bad and what is good, it is more about whose personality is what. Note also that even when there is no interactive web programming to it, be it JavaScript, PHP, or CGI with C for all that matters, many websites that are 100% static still won't look good in a text-only Emacs-w3m setting, as those sites were built with the GUI/high-resolution setting in mind, with different font sizes carrying the notion of importance, colors that even in the HTML sense aren't functional, but in their setting (i.e., in the eye of the beholder) most definitely are (but do not work here), and so on. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573