From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: M-! -- new or other binding ?? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:15:31 +0200 Message-ID: <863b36j9ek.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> References: <1176328029.3064.146.camel@CASE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176366049 20790 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2007 08:20:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:20:49 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 12 10:20:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HbuXs-0008OR-8W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:20:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbubz-0003n5-EJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:24:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbubh-0003fX-7y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:24:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbubf-0003dC-MA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:24:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbubf-0003cl-97 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:24:39 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HbuXV-0000yw-P6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:20:22 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HbuXH-0007Lc-76 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:20:07 +0200 Original-Received: from de-lt-054776l.eu.frd.uu.net ([62.191.185.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:20:07 +0200 Original-Received: from kai by de-lt-054776l.eu.frd.uu.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:20:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: de-lt-054776l.eu.frd.uu.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:j4UFgMSmqBQ5v7vzOlCAsBtw7Js= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:42606 Archived-At: William Case writes: > I find myself using the shell-command (M-!) a lot lately and the reach > for all the keys (on my keyboard Alt+Shft+!) is difficult. I often type ESC Shift-1. I think sometimes it may work to type Shift-ESC Shift-1. This way, you hold the Shift key, then hit ESC and 1 (they are next to each other on my keyboard - all hail HHKL!), then release the Shift key. Kai