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From: Wayne Harris via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: indentation
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 18:14:36 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8635v86ber.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvk0omijmm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Yes, it may be a bug/ feature of the F90 mode. But it got annoying
>> only when
>> the electric mode was active, otherwise the formatting was controlable
>> (e.g. by tab key) and not disturbing.
>
> Indeed.  `electric-indent-mode` presumes that the indentation code
> gets it right.  If that's not the case, then you're better off disabling
> it (or, as Joost points out, just disabling the reindentation by setting
> `electric-indent-inhibit`).
>
> But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make the indentation "do the
> right thing" ;-)

FWIW, I almost gave up from going from 24.3 to 27.1 precisely because of

  electric-indent-mode 

without knowing that was the cause of the new behavior (in my
perspective).  Today I was writing some TeX and the following happened.
Let me use ``[]'' to represent the point.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
\noindent {\em Notation.} As we often write polynomials in
finite rings of characterisc 2, let's define
%v
  \[\poly(x) = ...\]
%e
in the same way that it was used in the introduction.  []%% Well...
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

When I pressed RET, I got this

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
\noindent {\em Notation.} As we often write polynomials in
finite rings of characterisc 2, let's define
%v
  \[\poly(x) = ...\]
%e
  in the same way that it was used in the introduction.
  []%% Well...
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I have been reading this thread, so I just turned it off for the first
time.  I got used to it in other ways, but this behavior up there made
me turn it off and leave it off from now on.  (And it scared the hell
out of me when I saw it first.  Lol.)

Having said that, I recognize that many times I get to see new features
because they become the default.  It takes a long while for me to
actually dig new features as an attempt to solve a problem.  But you
know me by now --- I like stability a lot and so I stick to a version
for many, many years.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-27  7:03 indentation ptlo
2021-04-27  7:25 ` indentation Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-27 15:45   ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-27 16:06     ` indentation Colin Baxter
2021-04-27 18:43       ` indentation Thibaut Verron
2021-04-27 19:00         ` indentation Colin Baxter
2021-04-27 19:20           ` indentation Thibaut Verron
2021-04-27 20:02             ` indentation Colin Baxter
2021-04-28  8:36               ` indentation Thibaut Verron
2021-04-27  9:30 ` indentation Gregory Heytings
2021-04-27  9:47   ` indentation Joost Kremers
2021-04-27 16:55     ` indentation Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27 22:12       ` indentation Gregory Heytings
2021-04-27 15:01 ` [External] : indentation Drew Adams
2021-04-27 17:04   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27 17:54     ` Drew Adams
2021-04-27 20:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27 22:28         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27 17:07 ` indentation Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27 18:29   ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-27 20:31     ` indentation Stefan Monnier
2021-04-28  6:32       ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-28  6:42         ` indentation Joost Kremers
2021-04-28 14:14         ` indentation Stefan Monnier
2021-04-29  7:14           ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-29 13:43             ` indentation Stefan Monnier
2021-04-29 14:23               ` indentation Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-04-29 21:38                 ` on interface and behavior (Was: Re: indentation) Wayne Harris via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-04-30  7:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-01 13:30                     ` on interface and behavior Wayne Harris via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-04-30  7:05               ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-30  7:58                 ` indentation Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-30  8:54                   ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-30  9:09                     ` indentation Thibaut Verron
2021-04-30  9:18                       ` indentation ptlo
2021-04-30 16:49                 ` [External] : indentation Drew Adams
2021-04-30 19:05                 ` indentation Jean Louis
2021-04-30 19:59                   ` indentation Stefan Monnier
2021-04-30 21:58                 ` indentation Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-04-29 21:14           ` Wayne Harris via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-04-30 20:17             ` indentation Tassilo Horn
2021-05-01 13:43               ` indentation Wayne Harris via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-02  7:20                 ` indentation Tassilo Horn
2021-05-04 21:03                   ` indentation Wayne Harris via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-05  1:46                     ` indentation Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-01-26 14:13 Indentation Pierre L. Nageoire
2022-01-26 21:18 ` Indentation Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-01-27  3:30   ` Indentation Pierre L. Nageoire
2022-01-27 10:15     ` Indentation Robert Pluim
2022-01-28  6:31       ` Indentation Pierre L. Nageoire
2006-10-27 16:17 Indentation zombek
2006-10-27 16:46 ` Indentation Markus Triska
2006-10-27 18:01   ` Indentation Malte Spiess
2006-11-01 20:41     ` Indentation Markus Triska
2006-10-27 16:17 Indentation zombek
2006-10-27 16:53 ` Indentation Sam Peterson
2006-10-27 18:58   ` Indentation Sam Peterson
2006-10-28 16:25     ` Indentation jmg3000
2006-10-28 16:28       ` Indentation jmg3000
2006-10-28 16:54       ` Indentation don provan
2006-10-28 23:29         ` Indentation jmg3000
2006-07-03 22:01 Indentation Ronny Mandal
2006-07-03 23:00 ` Indentation Colin S. Miller
     [not found] <mailman.2266.1066871723.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-23 13:19 ` indentation Gareth Rees
2003-10-23  1:14 indentation Yen Tran

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