From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: want a file format easily edited and read by emacs that allows (multiple) pictures to be included Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:44:10 +0100 Message-ID: <861sk9b87p.fsf@zoho.com> References: <20171204215223.GB1723@tuxteam.de> <86609mduhp.fsf@zoho.com> <20171204221250.GF1723@tuxteam.de> <86o9nddd7i.fsf@zoho.com> <20171205080817.GA21102@tuxteam.de> <86vahlbmh1.fsf@zoho.com> <20171205085318.GA22742@tuxteam.de> <86mv2xbj4q.fsf@zoho.com> <20171205100343.GD22742@tuxteam.de> <86efo9bec7.fsf@zoho.com> <20171205115116.GJ22742@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512481498 10563 195.159.176.226 (5 Dec 2017 13:44:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:44:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 05 14:44:50 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMDWj-0002Lh-8k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:44:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMDWq-0000BI-Dx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 08:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMDWR-0000BA-Cv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 08:44:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMDWM-00059X-Id for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 08:44:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=57684 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMDWM-000591-Bx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 08:44:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMDW7-0000t7-OE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:44:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:C/koTa4n0S6b8LqVpezTKdPuWRU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115221 Archived-At: tomás wrote: >> So it *is* a tool, an IDE if you will, to >> generate data into different formats. OK, no >> further questions. > > It's more... and less. For example I have > a diary where I keep the things I've done I would just use a plain text buffer for that. >> PS. No wonder it was so difficult to find an >> example what good actually ever came out of >> it :) > > No. It's because you seem to be blind on some > eye. That may be just because you don't miss > what Org might bring to you, and that would > be OK. I have yet to see the one thing it can do for me that I don't already have. If it can glue plain text, HTML, LaTeX/PDF and more together, and provide tools and shortcuts to produce and convert between formats, this is what I would call an IDE and I'm not into that as I've yet to see such a system that does not reduce the degree of precision and intimacy with which I can solve such issues directly by manipulating the material first hand. All such in-between layers, in my experience, only makes for fiddling with the IDE, trying to figure out how to make it do what you want, instead of fiddling with the material itself which is the thing and the activity that appeals to me. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573