From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: All widgets except the scroll bar uses GTK? Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:43:40 +0200 Message-ID: <85wt8l30wz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <1157191803.574419.81400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <85mz9iwkk7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87lkp26no3.fsf@hans.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157265946 25329 80.91.229.2 (3 Sep 2006 06:45:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 06:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 03 08:45:43 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJljb-00054C-2T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:45:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJljZ-0000NV-VV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GJljN-0000MZ-VT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:45:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GJljM-0000MN-Ju for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJljM-0000MK-Ex for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJltb-0006Bp-A8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GJljJ-0003l0-2k; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 02:45:19 -0400 Original-Received: by lola.goethe.zz (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 831311C4D3A4; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 08:43:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Dieter Wilhelm In-Reply-To: <87lkp26no3.fsf@hans.local.net> (Dieter Wilhelm's message of "Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:03:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37132 Archived-At: Dieter Wilhelm writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> >> I think --with-toolkit-scroll-bars is the the default. I know that I >> had to explicitly override this default in the past, since I don't >> like the stupid completely unergonomic GTK+ default scrollbar (you >> can't switch forward and backward direction without moving the mouse, > > Maybe I only know GTK scroll bars (under Emacs), could you please > explain how to switch between the directions without moving the > mouse? Left mouse button scrolls forward, right mouse button backward. Regardless where the current position of the "slider" is. >> you can't scroll through a complete file without needing to reseat the >> mouse in between, you can't control the scroll amount). > > You mean that one can more precisely control the amount of scrolling > with respect to how far on clicks away from the tool bar handle? No, nothing to do with the handle (there is none): that would require reseating the mouse during a scrolling action. No, the scrolling size is controlled by the vertical position of the click: a click with the left mouse button moves the line where the click occured to the top of the screen. A click with the right button moves the top of the screen down to where the click occured. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum