From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: outline-minor-mode-prefix doen't work? Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:20:50 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <85r79zjqpp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87zmov5569.fsf@gmail.com> <878xwdpq1n.fsf@emacsfans.tsinghua.edu.cn> <87hdax2dm2.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> <85zmooshla.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85wtjsped8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1130927428 674 80.91.229.2 (2 Nov 2005 10:30:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 02 11:30:20 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EXFrp-0003rU-2T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:29:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EXFrn-0004If-WF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:29:16 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ezVjxEJL6BUNE3D+6B7cNI/MC6M= Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 02 Nov 2005 10:20:49 MET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2389bfee.newsread2.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=35YMb9fHe`JeoBec=`Q1lFQ5U85hF6f; DjW\KbG]kaMHQ>n?D9BSA]LZ13jR68; _FK1_LiI6ENVaM3>5MOK` List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:30755 Archived-At: William Xu writes: > David Kastrup writes: > > [...] > >> I repeat Stefan's question: >> >>>>>> Why do you need to (require 'outline)? >> >> You don't need to load outline real fast for the setting of >> outline-minor-mode-prefix to have an effect. > > The point is that setting of outline-minor-mode-prefix should be done > before loading outline.el, or more exactly, defining the keymap. Do we > agree on this? If yes, adding (require 'outline) afterwards is just > explicitly to guarantee this. Nonsense. The require will do nothing if it has been loaded already, and the effect of the setq will take place whenever outline eventually gets loaded. >> It is sufficient that it will be loaded at some point of time. > > This sufficiency depends on using some features like autoload, > eval-after-load, in outline.el ? Why would it? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum