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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:46:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85hcnta30d.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87hcnuc6hz.fsf@voyager.informatimago.com

Pascal Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> writes:

> Jean-Christophe Helary <fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> writes:
>> [...]
>> That is a possibility but obviously there are much more Japanese or
>> French people who use their software now than then.
>
> Yes, applications.
>
>
>> What good is a software package if it can't be used by
>> linguistically challenged people ?
>
> Linguistically challenged people just cannot program.

Interestingly, pretty much the only people I know without computing,
mathematics or science backgrounds that developed admirable mastery
with Emacs or TeX were proficient in the classics.

And if you have read classical Greek, with its 3 modes, 7 tenses, 3
numeri, 3 voices, and its complex grammatical structure that has no
problems spreading some unsuspecting sentence across several pages, a
sentence which, not entirely unlike a delicate spring, to a river of
sense swilling and into a sea expelling itself, from a slow start to a
furious - Odysseus in his ire would have been no less intimidating -
end continously waxing will finally, after a long, but yet not to be
compared to those of the masters who can express sentiments like "you
two should then have started to be a little ashamed of yourself" in a
single word by choosing all the grammatical details appropriately,
climax come to an end which, had you not been carefully nesting and
unnesting the twines of the silkily woven threads of language not
unlike a stack of bee hives or perhaps the playcards of a master,
might have been unexpected or at least no longer fathomable.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-24 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-23 12:03 Why emacs have not native language menu lu
2007-07-23 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-23 22:42   ` lu
2007-07-24  0:17   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24  0:36     ` Nick Roberts
2007-07-24  1:00       ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24  8:04         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3832.1185238836.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24  7:48         ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 11:19           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:23             ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3854.1185275992.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 11:35             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-07-24 12:10               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:50                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:11                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-24 15:21                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.3880.1185290519.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:30                         ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 16:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 18:51                         ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-25 20:00                   ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals (was: Emacs localization ...) Reiner Steib
2007-07-26  3:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26  4:42                     ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-07-26 12:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 11:45             ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 10:05     ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:05       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:12         ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:21           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]         ` <86FA8DD5-B87E-4E64-90C8-04AA81B9469\x04A@Web.DE>
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3855.1185276075.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:54             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:00               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:40                 ` William Case
2007-07-24 15:08                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3874.1185289573.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25  5:53                   ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3866.1185285646.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 14:26                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:57                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3873.1185289068.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:02                     ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25  5:16                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25  6:44                         ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25  6:55                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 10:38                             ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 16:47                             ` William Case
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.3973.1185382240.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 20:28                               ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25  9:36                           ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 11:15                             ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 12:01                               ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 13:06                                 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 13:17                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-26  4:16                                   ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 12:28                               ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-25 12:59                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.3943.1185346523.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 10:51                             ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 12:05                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.3957.1185365137.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 12:31                                 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:56                 ` Pascal Bourguignon
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3850.1185275133.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:30         ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 15:25           ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:52             ` William Case
2007-07-24 16:29               ` Why emacs have not native language menu -- TYPO William Case
2007-07-24 18:40               ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3826.1185230563.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24  3:45     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-24 11:29       ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 12:18         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:24           ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:39             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3860.1185279523.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:48           ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:10             ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:02               ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:19                 ` Hadron
2007-07-25 21:56                   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-26 13:36                     ` Hadron
2007-07-26 15:02                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 19:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27  0:23                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 10:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:52                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 12:06                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 13:32                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 18:42                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 18:45                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.4046.1185495843.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 12:00                             ` Hadron
2007-07-27 15:00                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.4017.1185462177.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 20:31                         ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 21:01                           ` ryofurue
2007-07-26 14:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 15:03                     ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-26 16:02                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.4022.1185465812.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-26 16:56                         ` Pascal Bourguignon
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.4016.1185461692.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-26 17:57                       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-27 18:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 20:35                       ` David Kastrup
2007-07-28  7:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 15:12                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 16:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3872.1185289026.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 15:57                 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 21:46             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-07-25 10:42               ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:07         ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:09           ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25  0:48       ` Ilya Zakharevich
2007-07-25  5:42         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-25  8:11         ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3947.1185351202.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 10:19           ` Ilya Zakharevich
     [not found]           ` <200707251019.l6PAJ3Zu021410@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu>
2007-07-25 12:22             ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]             ` <mailman.3958.1185366162.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 20:25               ` Ilya Zakharevich
2007-07-25 20:34                 ` Pascal Bourguignon
     [not found] ` <mailman.3810.1185219229.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24  7:41   ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-24 11:12     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:53       ` David Hansen
2007-07-24 12:23         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:21       ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:27         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3853.1185275573.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:32       ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:45         ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26  8:12           ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:31     ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26  8:00       ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26  8:16         ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26 19:35           ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 11:33         ` Hadron
2007-07-26 14:20           ` David Hansen
     [not found] <mailman.3788.1185192228.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-23 13:53 ` poppyer
2007-07-23 22:45   ` lu
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3827.1185230730.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24  7:43     ` Tassilo Horn

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