From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:31:01 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <85fyo4zvei.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <54321A2A-3F36-4416-B473-49AC11FF057F@gmail.com> <853bk5gwa8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <792D87C1-B9A9-495E-9335-7139845D1CB0@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136335236 4790 80.91.229.2 (4 Jan 2006 00:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 01:40:33 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Etwhb-0001VB-Bj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:40:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EtwjE-0000ek-If for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:42:13 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Dffn9OOzjHENsDn1C2P+h36PE+g= Original-Lines: 37 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Jan 2006 01:31:01 MET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: c7274708.newsread4.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=<_0U?i8=8BDUhhl_USDNiO:ejgIfPPldDjW\KbG]kaMHGSi?jHD8GO@]UaLVjG]FkF1_LiI6ENVaM3>5MOK` List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32403 Archived-At: Tim McNamara writes: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> Tim McNamara wrote: >> >>>After all, the existing Emacs icons are pretty damned dated and >>>sorely in need of a facelift. >>> >>> >> But there is a decision on new icons. Pleas look at >> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsIcons > > Many of those are very nice, and I like the final choice. However, I > believe that the OP was looking for upgrades for the toolbar icons, > which are a bit behind the times in terms of sophistication and not > all that intuitive in some cases. It is hard to see why it would be desirable to fix this only for MacOSX, a proprietary system, and then only for a single particular port of it. The people shouting "you should be glad that people make improvements to free software" make as much sense as people who think democracy is somehow served by people exercising their freedom to vote by voting for parties seeking to abolish democracy. That is confusing cart and horse: it is the essence of freedom that you _can_ choose even non-freedom. But if too many actually do so, the freedom is lost. The GNU project stands up for your right to create your own forks of software if you so desire. But that does not mean that exercising that right is automatically a good thing. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum