From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:09:30 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <858xtwxc5x.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <54321A2A-3F36-4416-B473-49AC11FF057F@gmail.com> <853bk5gwa8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <792D87C1-B9A9-495E-9335-7139845D1CB0@gmail.com> <85irt10zcb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <1136378422.426228.106470@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <85lkxwxgu0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <1136383000.006836.36600@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136396122 27111 80.91.229.2 (4 Jan 2006 17:35:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 18:35:19 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EuCWz-00007J-8u for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:34:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EuCYf-0007jN-OP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:36:21 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/EmKwC52pa6uCW+YJhOllZxsNT4= Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Jan 2006 16:09:28 MET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 56cd779a.newsread4.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=V8@h9cig`=7RTD7Kih:TB8:ejgIfPPld4jW\KbG]kaM8GSi?jHD8GO0]UaLVjG]Fk61_LiI6ENVa=3>5MOK` List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32418 Archived-At: david.reitter@gmail.com writes: > I consider our little project nowhere near as important and big as > XEmacs, and any comparison is out of question. XEmacs started off nowhere as important and big at some time. > The other crucial difference is that we're syncing with Emacs CVS > rather than developing a fork, and we intend to keep it that way. XEmacs is syncing with Emacs regularly. It has become prohibitively costly by now, and I don't think it likely that they will synch again generally before Emacs 22.1. > Thirdly, it's simply untrue that developments aren't contributed > back. Those that I consider worthwhile I supply myself (and > anything else is publicly available and may be taken at > leisure). The whole assignment stuff is about accountability. You can't hold someone accountable for something you took "at leisure". It's really XEmacs all over again, no lessons learnt. Pity. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum