From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs 21 or snapshot? Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 16:43:38 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <854pmrtjol.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <133h07p3lok86ee@corp.supernews.com> <85ejly2rre.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkg5y28l.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178379204 1536 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 15:33:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:33:24 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 17:33:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkMGA-00030q-KU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 17:33:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkMMv-00089h-Dn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 11:40:21 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.98 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:W4G0nw8uLly8XcqdYqjkrXHHK1c= Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 May 2007 16:43:32 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 06d21d7c.newsspool4.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=F>f; J\W\`7:RLigj]; iP=84IUK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43742 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > Xavier Maillard writes: > > > Snapshot is a development version whereas GNU Emacs 21 is a > > *stable* version. > > Which does not change the fact that the snapshots have been quite > better and more solid than the "stable" version for years now. In > particular now that snapshots are released as "pretest" releases. > > For a newbie, I do not see any benefit in Pre-testing a piece of > software he does not know at all. Because it works much better? > Though I concede pretest and/or even the CVS version are really good > for experienced users or people with already some GNU Emacs basics. Have you actually _tried_? There have been literally years of discussions and fights over usability features and approaches. The deciding advantage of Emacs 22 over Emacs 21 is not a particular technical feature, but rather a vast improvement all over the board, partly specially catering for new users. > Can you point to any area, even a single one, where the supposed > "stability" of Emacs 21.4 leads to better results than, say, the > pretest 22.0.99? > > I won't be able to do that since I never ever had a problem with GNU > Emacs 21.x on a GNU/linux platform. Then you are not seriously using it. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum