From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beamer, pdflatex and auctex Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:27:41 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <853b9lxfg2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <85vemtxh7m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85fydpkyvx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkngk8ql.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkngdj57.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161222075 14261 80.91.229.2 (19 Oct 2006 01:41:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 19 03:41:15 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GaMtW-0006N1-N6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:40:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GaMtV-0005t7-Tv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:40:26 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsinpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewsinpeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:B7crg71DdPgopfy4g6tLUjlnxaw= Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Oct 2006 03:28:39 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: d469c22e.newsspool4.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=@5hX6lHjNGoUoRk[hk2Wal4IUKn Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:142499 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38120 Archived-At: Dieter Wilhelm writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Dieter Wilhelm writes: >> >>> Why is this not sufficient for including their work in the >>> official Emacs installation, why must they even give up their >>> copyright? They already stated that their code can be reused by >>> everyone, couldn't it? >> >> They made no legally binding statement whatsoever. > > From a legal point of view clearly problematic, with common sense > it's another story. When I give something to a "charity" I'm not > eligible to claim later on "interest". But if there is no proof that you have given anything, that does not help. >> Emacs is too important for the FSF to risk that. > > > I'm curious whether the usage of Emacs and TeX is still growing or has > reached some saturation / decline in this age of graphical IDEs. > My guess is that percentages decrease and absolute numbers increase. > Furthermore I'm interested whether the guys in the snippet below > have signed legal papers for the FSF (as is claimed in a certain > lisp file), I'm using and reworking their code. Do you know how I > could get this piece of information in an unbureaucratic way? > > ;; This file containes code from ansys-mod.el. > ;; Copyright (C) 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > ;; Author: Tim Read (Author does not respond) > ;; Author: Geoff Foster (Address unreachable, > ;; Dieter Wilhelm 2006-03-08) I don't see an assignment from either person in the copyright assignment file accessible by GNU maintainers. Where did you get the claim? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum