From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:36:38 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <853ajrreo9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <15b2444a-fece-4781-b57b-5e738ed1d202@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <26f9d70d-4131-42f1-a368-42aa0d28a940@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222123480 17442 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2008 22:44:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:44:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 00:45:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Khu9g-0002e0-Li for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:45:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Khu8e-0006Kx-UD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:44:16 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!feeder.news-service.com!feeder6.cambrium.nl!feeder4.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.141.40.68.MISMATCH!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng2.kpn.DE!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:imhOeusizgnhhLB3hzkqAa2DSb8= Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Sep 2008 00:36:38 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38264e3e.newsspool1.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=; MAj4:PO9h4Ud; _T Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162587 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57930 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > I'm sorry about that (the day job). Do you want one? A danger of > learning Lisp is becoming aware of the shortcomings of lesser > languages (nearly all others). Strike "lesser", "all" and "others". You become aware of the shortcomings of greater languages as well, and of Lisp itself. If I take a look at the Allegro Assai in Sonata III for violin solo from J.S.Bach, it is completely unnecessary to put fingerings in the score. There is just one sane way to play it. The score is, in a way, an instrument-neutral way of describing music. And you can play this particular score on the piano, for example. And it will be perfectly recognizable. You can't play most piano scores on the violin, in contrast. The violin is a lesser instrument with fewer possibilities. It takes a good craftsman to create music where the violin appears like a perfect instrument, unrestricted. It takes Bach to turn the restriction into a benefit and create music where the various counterpoints sit on different strings and thus get a different color. This is one of the reasons why the famous organ "Toccata and Fugue in D minor" which does not exercise quite a few of the possibilities of an organ is nowadays believed to be an adaption from a lost piece for solo violin. When transposed into A minor (hm, on a viola you would not even need to transpose), you get something where even all the "dazzling" passages and styles have a playable rendition on the violin, something which is far from likely. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum