From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: M-TAB already used by KDE Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:46:29 +0100 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84vg1s2a9m.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <3dfe3ea4.1245206@news.cis.dfn.de> <3dfe47c4.3581448@news.cis.dfn.de> <87bs3l2fgk.fsf@kuntu.zangpo.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040122302 24721 80.91.224.249 (17 Dec 2002 10:51:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OFK6-0006QI-00 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:51:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OFJc-0000q2-0D for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 05:51:08 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.DE!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 21 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de (134.91.35.216) Original-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1040121989 726942 134.91.35.216 (16 [73968]) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.93 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qDVMKBAXbo+bhVyUoRahmQx/cpE= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108212 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4741 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4741 Martin Schmitz writes: > Hey, c'mon, it's Unix. Of course one can change everything in KDE. It's better now, but still not _quite_ perfect. For example, the Win modifier can only be used if you have a key that produces the Meta_L/R keysym, not with Hyper_L/R. Also, KDE really wants to use Alt for ... hm. What's the right word? When it has a dialog box, some characters are underlined. For example, kprinter shows P_ropertiers, with r underlined, and so you can hit Alt-r to access this button, instead of clicking on it. It's not possible to use something other than Alt for this, AFAIK. It would be quite convenient if it was possible to tell KDE to use Hyper -- then Emacs wouldn't see Meta keysyms and thus would use Alt instead of Meta. But as it stands, the patch I wrote is required. -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)