From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Chinese characters support Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:45:34 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <84he8292dt.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <841xz6q3nc.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030511.011725.71089640.acmuller@gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052585475 2025 80.91.224.249 (10 May 2003 16:51:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 10 18:51:14 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19EXZ3-0000WU-00 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:51:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EXX4-0002FT-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 12:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EXWh-0001la-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 12:48:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EXWU-0001Dg-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 12:48:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.84]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19EXWP-0000rr-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2003 12:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19EXWN-0000Nw-01; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:48:27 +0200 Original-Received: from lucy (520080024987-0001@[217.81.251.59]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19EXWD-0Vep6GC; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:48:17 +0200 Original-Received: by lucy (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 696AB28917; Sat, 10 May 2003 18:45:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Charles Muller In-Reply-To: <20030511.011725.71089640.acmuller@gol.com> (Charles Muller's message of "Sun, 11 May 2003 01:17:25 +0900 (JST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Sender: 520080024987-0001@t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9527 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9527 Charles Muller writes: > Kai wrote: > >> Then I typed M-x view-hello-file RET. This showed me some Chinese >> (and Japanese, and Korean) characters. If you see empty boxes >> instead of the Chinese characters, then some fonts are missing. > > I should be pointed out, nonetheless, that it is a bad idea to cite > the hello file as an example of international script functionality, > since it is set in an encoding that virtually no one ever uses (at > least in the CJK world), Really? The HELLO file shows characters from a lot of different encodings, and if used as such, then it is quite useful. > and it is quite often the case that that file will display fine > despite the fact that CJK won't work in utf-8 There are known problems with CJK support in UTF-8, but the situation has improved greatly in the development version of Emacs. > or native East Asian encodings. Can you cite examples? I have had no problem with gb2312 and Chinese characters, at least. Others routinely use Shift-JIS and EUC-JP for Japanese, I gather. > Someone should either get rid of that file or save it in a relevant > encoding. The file is in a relevant encoding: it's the encoding used by Emacs internally. (Or rather, an encoding close to the internal encoding.) This fact has its disadvantages, but it also has advantages. -- file-error; Data: (Opening input file no such file or directory ~/.signature)