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From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann)
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Chinese characters support
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:24:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84el36a9ly.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030511.023149.92589622.acmuller@gol.com> (Charles Muller's message of "Sun, 11 May 2003 02:31:49 +0900 (JST)")

Charles Muller <acmuller@gol.com> writes:

> Kai wrote:
>
>> Really?  The HELLO file shows characters from a lot of different
>> encodings, and if used as such, then it is quite useful.
>> 
>> > and it is quite often the case that that file will display fine
>> > despite the fact that CJK won't work in utf-8
>> 
>> There are known problems with CJK support in UTF-8, but the situation
>> has improved greatly in the development version of Emacs.
>
> I know that, and I am not contesting that point. But again, the
> HELLO file is not a utf-8 file. It is also not a form of JIS or
> other East Asian encoding, so the fact that one can display
> multilingual scripts by opening that file does not mean that they
> will be able to display them in Big5, JIS, or whatever. If you check
> the archives for "utf-8+cjk", you will see that we have had a few
> threads in the past year that dealt with problems trying to display
> CJK and other international scripts, in which the advice was given
> to look at the Hello file. As a person who has been working with
> international scripts and utf-8 for a number years, I know firsthand
> the ability to be able to read this file doesn't usually mean
> much. People who recommend checking this file are usually people who
> don't use double-byte East Asian languages.

I know that I often suggest people to have a look at the HELLO file.
I do that to answer one question: does Emacs find the right fonts?

While a correctly-looking HELLO file is not sufficient for correct
functioning of CJK, it is a requirement.  That is, if HELLO looks
bad, that needs to be fixed first.

However, I don't use CJK myself (much), and therefore I am quite
ready to be proven wrong.  Is it common to have a garbled HELLO file
but still CJK is working right?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-10 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.5730.1052348993.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-10 14:26 ` Chinese characters support Kai Großjohann
2003-05-10 16:17   ` Charles Muller
2003-05-10 16:45     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-10 17:31       ` Charles Muller
2003-05-10 18:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-11  2:11           ` Charles Muller
2003-05-11  3:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-11 13:59               ` Charles Muller
     [not found]               ` <mailman.5976.1052661651.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:29                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-05-12 19:58                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-13  7:40                 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-13  9:57                   ` acmuller
2003-05-13 10:02                   ` Robin Hu
2003-05-15  8:07                     ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-10 19:24         ` Kai Großjohann [this message]
2003-05-11  2:15           ` Charles Muller
2003-05-11  3:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5956.1052619415.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:56             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-13  3:36               ` Charles Muller
2003-05-14  3:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.6084.1052797097.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13  7:05                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-14  6:14                 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-14 16:27                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-14 21:07                     ` Jason Rumney
     [not found]       ` <mailman.5927.1052587973.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:27         ` Jason Rumney
2003-05-13  7:40         ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-13 10:11           ` acmuller
2003-05-13 10:54           ` Charles Muller
     [not found]           ` <mailman.6097.1052826249.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-15  8:07             ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-10 17:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.5936.1052589798.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13  7:40       ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-14  3:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.6156.1052882447.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-15  8:07           ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-16 11:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-12 23:05   ` Michael Na Li
2003-05-13  7:02     ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]   ` <mailman.5922.1052583563.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13  7:40     ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-07 23:08 Gaoyan Xie
2003-05-08  6:27 ` Charles Muller
     [not found] ` <mailman.5739.1052375326.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08  7:33   ` Robin Hu
2003-05-10 14:28   ` Kai Großjohann

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