From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Understanding Emacs and Tabs Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:37:55 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8465o6lwnw.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <72A87F7160C0994D8C5A36E2FDC227F5059CF87C@txnexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053369967 2297 80.91.224.249 (19 May 2003 18:46:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 19 20:46:00 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19HpbF-0000LG-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 20:43:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19HpaS-0005ZN-03 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:42:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19HpQb-0002wf-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:32:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19HpFY-00018M-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 14:20:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Hoec-0001rv-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 13:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19HoeK-00016O-06; Mon, 19 May 2003 19:42:12 +0200 Original-Received: from lucy (520080024987-0001@[80.135.118.236]) by fmrl07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19Hodt-1eTk3MC; Mon, 19 May 2003 19:41:45 +0200 Original-Received: by lucy (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 998CC28A59; Mon, 19 May 2003 19:41:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: "Bingham, Jay" In-Reply-To: <72A87F7160C0994D8C5A36E2FDC227F5059CF87C@txnexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> (Jay Bingham's message of "Mon, 19 May 2003 09:51:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Sender: 520080024987-0001@t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9888 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9888 "Bingham, Jay" writes: > Let me first say that I have learned a great deal about Emacs from > your posts and I have a great deal of respect for you and your > opinions. However I think that your response was a bit hasty in > this case. Oh, there's someone being very careful. I hope I can stand a healthy dose of criticism :-) Point taken, I hope. > What you say may well be true if one has indent-tabs-mode enabled. I think you meant to say disabled. The default for indent-tabs-mode is to be enabled. Okay, so the full story is this: in the default Emacs configuration, M-i will insert a tab up to the 120th column in a line. And this is very close to always. And there are two variables that come into play: the variable indent-tabs-mode and the variable tab-stop-list. Yeah, maybe I'm trying to be too exact. Maybe an introduction doesn't need to be so exact. It was just a knee-jerk reaction on my side -- when somebody says `always' I'll answer, `but not when the full moon shines through the window and you're sitting with your back to the door'. It's probably silly. I'm sorry. -- This line is not blank.